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Old 06-16-2012, 10:58 AM
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Ok. I'll bite. It is an automatic. It has D and shifts itself with no driver intervention. I realize it also has paddles for manual mode but so does a GL 450.

The marketing guys can call it what they want, but it's just a very sophisticated version of what's been around for decades.
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Originally Posted by SSST
Ok. I'll bite. It is an automatic. It has D and shifts itself with no driver intervention. I realize it also has paddles for manual mode but so does a GL 450.

The marketing guys can call it what they want, but it's just a very sophisticated version of what's been around for decades.
Not to split hairs, but PDK, DSG, DCT, and other gearboxes in this class are typically and correctly referred to as a semi-automatics or automated manuals. Automatic tranmissions like those in the GL 450 have fluid coupled torque converters and not direct drive dual clutches to manage the power transfer from the engine to the transmission as well as many other operational differences. But then you knew that, I'm sure. Let's be honest; people refer to PDK as an "automatic" and compare it to the tranny in an SUV to get a reaction or put it down, not because it's really descriptive.
Old 06-16-2012, 03:58 PM
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Two points. First, I didn't bring the topic up so I'm not trying to start trouble. I just thought the point that the PDK or any other double clutch automatic isn't really an automatic is silly. Second I have two vehicles with double clutch automatics and they are great automatic transmissions. I fully understand the technical differences.

Call it whatever makes you happy, but they are what they are.
Old 06-16-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SSST
I didn't bring the topic up so I'm not trying to start trouble.
My mistake. I misinterpreted your comparison of PDK to the transmission in the GL 450 SUV......
Old 06-16-2012, 04:33 PM
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:42 PM
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I do not see calling a PDK, DSC, F1 or torque convertor transmission an automatic an insult. If it can be shifted from one gear to another without manual input from the driver, it is an automatic. If it requires manual input from the driver, it is a manual.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:52 PM
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I had a '72 Pinto wagon with a 4 speed manual and more recently an '06 BMW 5 series wagon with a 6 speed manual. I'm looking forward to my manual 991, but I totally understand why someone would want a PDK. I gave it some pretty serious thought after my test drive. It's pretty amazing that there seems to be no correlation between transmission preference and any specific demographic. Different strokes.........
Old 06-16-2012, 11:09 PM
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My view pretty much depends on the intent of the car. If I planned to track the car more than a bit, I'd get a GT3 (when available) and certainly get PDK as it would be both safer and faster. For a car I'd plan to drive exclusively on the street or rarely on the track, I'd go with the manual.
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Originally Posted by Jon70
My view pretty much depends on the intent of the car. If I planned to track the car more than a bit, I'd get a GT3 (when available) and certainly get PDK as it would be both safer and faster. For a car I'd plan to drive exclusively on the street or rarely on the track, I'd go with the manual.
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Originally Posted by Jon70
My view pretty much depends on the intent of the car. If I planned to track the car more than a bit, I'd get a GT3 (when available) and certainly get PDK as it would be both safer and faster. For a car I'd plan to drive exclusively on the street or rarely on the track, I'd go with the manual.

I would go manual to have fun in the track and PDK to drive it exclusively on today's congested streets.
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Originally Posted by Alphajor
I would go manual to have fun in the track and PDK to drive it exclusively on today's congested streets.
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PDK is faster and more versatile on the track. Why would you choose manual for a track oriented car?
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R square = 0. Seems like no correlation anywhere.
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Originally Posted by SSST
PDK is faster and more versatile on the track. Why would you choose manual for a track oriented car?
To have fun? Thats the reason I would go to the track, unless I am profesional driver, which I am not.
OTOH, I Cant see the fun driving a manual in todays congested roads, but thats just me.


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