991 Interior Shot
 

I hope they rip out that center console for the 991 GT3 RS.

Interesting article pgD2 today's WSJ re: weight reduction in future cars. Highlights Lambo Sesto with 2,200lb curb weight and 570hp V10. 400hp and 2,200lbs would be epic, let alone 570.

Can't see the 991 dropping much weight if they're stuffing the interior with more luxury content, but maybe they've found a way.

My 997.2 is looking better and better. Question is, will I still be able to drive it in 15yrs in a world of 62mpg avg fuel economy?

That center console looks very Panamera like, no?

that's the new corporate look.

More buyers for a road cruiser thana hard core track junkies I believe....I would not be surprised if you can no longer delete the AC & Radio.

Nice to know they smoke Camels and use the cupholders over there, it is our fault for "Americanizing" them and now we have the switches and knobs to prove it!

Yup, and just like the new Cayenne. Taking parts sharing to the extreme...

i love all the buttons in the pan and cayenne, but in the 911 seems out of place. and common, no redesigned cup holders! at least make them out of carbon fiber :p

evolving the interiors with the cayenne first, then that stuff trickles into the 911. pretty lame!

is that a PDK lever. Is the GT3 going PDK. Boo!

Just a standard 911 interior shot. Anyone's guess re: PDK in next GT3. Time does march on though...

Only 41 buttons?
And only two of them for windows? They could add another 2 there easily.

No confirmed options for wood trim and sport chrono yet or I see a bulge in the covered dash? Would love to add them.. for sure

Also this console creates problems with passenger girlfriend they covered for her not reaching out to you, but I mean she probably still can see your face maybe they should raise it higher?

Can’t wait.

Horrible interior, too busy, that's ok for Panamera/Cayenne, but has no place for the 911 (and I guess the Boxster/Cayman will get it too).

Stage 1: share parts among all the model lines to reduce costs.
Stage 2: share parts among all the brands (VW, Audi, Lambo, Porsche, Skoda, etc) to reduce costs even more.

I thought this might happen. VW's omnipotent influence? Only time will tell.......the 2010 and 2011 gt3/rs might be the last of true Porsche DNA. I don't care if Porsche shares parts with the Cayenne and Panamera.....they are both boats, or share parts between Cayman and 911.....they are both sports cars, but across the board????? No thanks. Will the MSRP come down???:)

I see a warp speed button in there :roflmao:

No handbrake...it probably has the new electric hand brake...I have one in my 2010 S4 it's a PITA.

Are you sure?... Could be the new Passat! ;)

You guys are being too pessimistic. Take Mooty's and Mike's approach: Think of all the weight savings when you turn your new 991 into a stripper! :D

In fairness, you could also argue that the new console is the fat grandkid of the CGT's. No?

My next car will be at least 100lbs lighter, I don't see the next GT3 being lighter.
Part of why the GT3 holds up on track is the lightness. If a car is too heavy it will be no good, no matter what the HP is.

Sorry - that is just too busy. Way too much corporate part sharing!

I guess "form follows function" is out the window...that's a pointless center console for a rear-engined (or mid-engined) vehicle. Wasted space; wasted weight.

Makes sense in the Panamera and Cayenne...but not here.

Can even imagine trying to take that new center console out. So many buttons so many wires. Your gauge cluster will lite up like las Vegas. Mike

and people loathe the 996 interior...

I like it. Sorry.

Good eye!

get used to it - the big wheels are in motion for mediocrity and steve-jobs-like corporate branding. individuality is out, and hoi pollei are being fed what they want. the world needs a re-boot....

The older designs had problems too in the center console area. And many complained about the luck of cup holders.

1:12 to 2:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0FrZ...eature=related

PAG made a mistake adding cup-holders, AFAIC. :)

oh my dear gawd....
when that comes out, i will mark up my RS to 250,000 USD and probably will sell overnight ;-)

Gee, this spartan interior sure does suck...

mk I 996 with clubsport seats ... ah!

Maybe they will offer a center console and center stack dash delete?

mk2 RS :)

Doh! ... I am such a loser! :)

Yes they will. You'll need to buy Porsche tool #P00SAWZ to do the removal.

http://i.pgcdn.com/pi/0/13/66/1366828_640.jpg

LOVE that steerring wheel!!!

imo, that is the best interior for the 911.
love it without the cd compartments, just a straight-across dash. form follows function, gropius couldn't have done any better.

Looks too luxurious, will be good on other 911 but GT3/RS which needs to be simple and purposeful

Reminds me of my little Lexus 250 is.

I like it for a street car. Would be great if they incorporated a usable armrest, that's something I miss in my car when driving on the street. For a track car, no way.

Looks like Porsche expects most buyers to want luxury instead of having fantasies about sports cars.

I can't blame them. We are a minority and most of us if we can afford it buy GT3s or RS's We mostly don't look at Cabrios, C4S's, C4's and other 911's Porsche makes. They have to sell those cars to someone. That market wants luxury and any sort of inconvenience turns them away. It's much easier to find dedicated loons like us when they made 3 times fewer cars. Now they need to sell to people who likes to show off the fact that they can get an expensive car without really caring much about the "real car" stuff we care about.

If they make the new GT3 with such an interior it would be pretty amusing. But we will see. I won't judge until I see it.

The GT3's will get special stripper interiors :thumbup:.

You of course will be able to pay more to add all the silly stuff back in.

Porsche, VWAG, is taking the 911 further up market according to recent accounts. How far that is I don't know! But they are also adding an intro Porsche just under the Boxster.

I don't really see the relevance of taking the 911 further up market when the two door car based on the Panamera comes out, read the new 928. That car will be plenty fast, and with a shorter wheel base than the Panamera, shouldn't have any issues with slaying other sports cars just based on its KPIs, that is Panamera's Key Performance Indicators - 0-60 - Quarter Mile times et al(.), when paired with the V8TT. Keep the 911 a lighter less bulky vehicle like we all want it. Keep the Turbo closer in weight and stature to the 993 with a two wheel drive option that isn't GT2 based; just front wheel drive delete. They can then make the 928 the Cross-Country GT platform missile it will be with all the buttons and gadgets.

The interior is a far cry than anything we saw since the 90s, 993 per se. I don't mind the interior too much. Seems to me they are trying to add far too much content. Just be grateful that they don't add a silly jog-nob like in some of the BMWs. Personally I would be happy with a single, reliable, touch screen interface with buttons for the crap we use all the time like windows, door locks, cruise control and Air Conditioning. Everything else can be easily accessed and manipulated with a standard touch screen interface. And having the option to configure where the features and buttons are located within the touch screen's operating system would be an advantage. Having options and icons that are static is way retro and isn't keeping up with modern methodology! Further having an optional bluetooth capable communications with a third party device like Droid, I/Phone/PodTouch/Pad should be explored too.

//* That's enough of me rambling *//

Real men delete the cupholders when ordering the car :to_order::rockon:

I second that. Get rid of all the buttons go with a single touch screen for everything inculding ac/heat. Then remove the lower console and center console totally.
It would probably save a lot of weight, though the people who typically buy the newer 911's won't really like it.

I am not sure touch screens in cars make much sense.

1. It has to be reliable. I have enough trouble with failing iPhones and similar devices not to trust this in a high vibration, high temperature variation environment. Will it work at -20 C ?
2. Fingerprints. I like my screens without finger grease on them. This makes me a slave of the car needing to clean one more thing. And you have to clean it right or you can break it.

I'll take buttons. They work. I don't need a stupid menu/wizard to set the temperature inside. I have enough of that crap on the computer.

I'm not a fan of touch screens myself. If there is any glare I can't see what I'm touching. Mike

Ewwwww.

+1

NO touch screen please.
Put the 200 buttons for regular versions.

For GT3 I want switches, simple on-off switches preferably ones that click when engaged military style with simple two three cables each. Servicable even after 10 years as DIY.
It’s not like that they can't make a road version of the excellent cup/rsr console.

John

PS I wouldn’t think it was actually possible for people to say how much they miss the 996 GT3 interior so soon. Porsche made it happen. :thumbup:
Excellent!

Touch Screens in the grand touring Turbo versions, and strip out everything for the GT3 track cars. It has to be appropriate for the situation.

errrr...

what's that PCM 3.0 stuff we can get in our latest and greatest Porsches? (including GT2/3/RS). That's one big touchscreen and it works perfectly.

The only annoyance I would have with a touchscreen for the "regular" stuff is that it is very hard to operate blindly. A button you can feel, on a touchscreen you have to look to see where to put your finger. I can change the PASM/airco/heater/... without taking my eyes of the road, with a touchscreen this is impossible.

But please do not forget to spec a leather dash when you order one! :burnout:

i vote for toggle switches too. real metal ones that are stubborn and 'clunk' like the ones on jadis electronics. like john said, make the console like a cup car. also want air jacks, and motec as standard.

A nice LSD and cup cable/shifter be great too : ). Mike

First of all I think this interior has no place in a sports-car. They should, at least for the GT3/RS take a couple of pointers from Ferrari's 360 CS or F430 Scuderia.

Also, if it has PDK why do we need the huge shift lever in the middle. Why not just put a simple button for auto, again like in the Ferrari's.

The irony is that now that they've decided to bring the center console up closer to the steering wheel (in the case of the shift lever, like in the Carrera GT) which is better for the track, they're going the PDK route.

+1 on the GT3/RS center console looking like that on the CUP/RSR's. And the only button on the steering wheel should be for flashing your lights so that the slow a$$ in front of you gets the fcuk out of your way!