The Porsche Tax
#16
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What’s even better is the “invisible” Porsche tax. Ever have a contractor come to your house and try and make a deal after he sees what’s in your garage? It’s real my friends. I avoid at all costs exposing my garage to anyone working at my house until after the price has been settled.
DaveGee
DaveGee
#17
Drifting
Hahha... Same here. When we go to a client's home, we are always in our F-150...always! When it was in the shop, we took our daughter's '16 Ford Fiesta. Never the Pcar or even the Hellcat.
#18
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Chris keep your mouth shut on this subject.
#19
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Porsche tax - price a Porsche battery lately?
Our friendly dealer wanted $1100 for a battery for our Cayenne Diesel! They claim it takes a “special” battery that must have “specific programming” - blah, blah, blah. I took it to an independent shop and for under $400 had a new Interstate battery installed along with the “special programming” (a 5 minute job!). Yes, we pay to play, but it definitely is worth it to check around for less expensive alternatives! While the Porsche tax is bad, it pails in comparison to the Ferrari tax! A friend of mine bought a “bargain” 456 and his first service was over $18K and he finally got his car back after only 3 months! He sold the car after 1000 miles and lost over $55K!!! His Ferrari “itch” has been scratched - for good!!!
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GT3FZS (01-02-2021)
#20
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Some of those trucks are inching up on 911 pricing :-). Contractors around me all seem to drive 80K+ "Work" trucks. It is Texas.
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#22
Drifting
Ha! Isn't that the truth. Ours is just a '17 Lariat, so not quite that territory, but easily done these days. The big SUV's are easily Pcar pricing!
#23
I think the cost of mods relates to volume. If you are going to sell 3000 sets of headers for a Ford Mustang, you can recoup your R&D and make a profit at a lower price than if you are going to sell 300 sets of headers for a Porsche 991. On the servicing, while a battery seems simple, they are now charged intelligently and that requires reprogramming. A 991 programming tool might cost $3k, but you can buy a BMW programming tool for $500, again because of volume. And factory trained Porsche mechanics are rare compared to factory trained BMW mechanics, again due to volume, so hourly rates are higher. No doubt it is a more expensive car to buy and maintain and mod.
#24
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New to the 991 world, but had a 996 and997 so I am familiar with the Porsche Tax. I did the battery myself on my wife's 2010 Cayenne. Its under the seat so I understand extra labor. Programming is not "necessary" but will potential shorten new battery's life. I believe that some advanced tools (Foxwell, Isoft) can reprogram this and they are less than $200.
My favorite P Tax is this: https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/99XRBHW.html 5 pieces of plastic, two painted silver, only $485!
My favorite P Tax is this: https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/99XRBHW.html 5 pieces of plastic, two painted silver, only $485!
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Gripster (12-31-2020)
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And this is about parts not service. When I get normal maintenance at my trusted Indy I bring my own parts when possible. He does not stock all P parts anyway and I get Indy labor price vs. dealers.
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GT3FZS (01-02-2021)
#26
I think the cost of mods relates to volume. If you are going to sell 3000 sets of headers for a Ford Mustang, you can recoup your R&D and make a profit at a lower price than if you are going to sell 300 sets of headers for a Porsche 991. On the servicing, while a battery seems simple, they are now charged intelligently and that requires reprogramming. A 991 programming tool might cost $3k, but you can buy a BMW programming tool for $500, again because of volume. And factory trained Porsche mechanics are rare compared to factory trained BMW mechanics, again due to volume, so hourly rates are higher. No doubt it is a more expensive car to buy and maintain and mod.
#27
Burning Brakes
I agree. So much of what is posted here is "gilding the Lilly" - the car is wonderful right from the factory. I have enjoyed this car like no other over the past 8 years and 100,000 miles. bear in mind, I do not race and these comments do not apply to serious track racers.
Last edited by rnl; 12-31-2020 at 09:00 AM.
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#28
Made me smile
I have an electrician coming monday and parking the 911 at the neighbors. It helps to have 2 garages because billy bobs in the south might give you credit if they think you have an old muscle car but this time the work is in both garages !
What’s even better is the “invisible” Porsche tax. Ever have a contractor come to your house and try and make a deal after he sees what’s in your garage? It’s real my friends. I avoid at all costs exposing my garage to anyone working at my house until after the price has been settled.
DaveGee
DaveGee
#29
Burning Brakes
Ever try to get a quote to get a small spoiler or even a bumper painted? Are Porsche bumpers made out of unicorn plastic that a body shop has to charge 3x more than what i paid to paint a bumper on my M3?
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GT3FZS (01-02-2021)
#30
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Here is a great example of a Warning Triangle - same part made by the same OEM:
Porsche $56
https://www.getporscheparts.com/oem-...ngle-pab860251
BMW $20
https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...le-71606770487
Porsche $56
https://www.getporscheparts.com/oem-...ngle-pab860251
BMW $20
https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...le-71606770487