Annoying Drivers
06-09-2019, 10:12 AM
#46
1) Left Lane Idiots
2) Semi's in the left lane doing 20 mph less than posted
3) Anyone driving a mini-van anywhere
2) Semi's in the left lane doing 20 mph less than posted
3) Anyone driving a mini-van anywhere
06-09-2019, 01:11 PM
#47
Pro
I see the pattern of behavior, that you described above, occur all the time. On two or three lane highways, drivers, who remain perpetually in the left lane with no cars in front of them, speed up to try to prevent me, or others, from passing and getting back into the left lane ahead of them.
When I was younger, this would aggravate me. I would very much prefer to never pass anybody on the right. But I tend to drive faster than most on highways. I move all the way right when not passing, then move left only when I want to pass someone. The way it should be. But perpetual left-lane drivers screw it all up for everyone.
Anyway, I no longer get aggravated about it. I just learned to drive faster when passing so they don't have any chance to box me in. No anger, no stress. I just go by and continue on my way without giving them another thought.
When I was younger, this would aggravate me. I would very much prefer to never pass anybody on the right. But I tend to drive faster than most on highways. I move all the way right when not passing, then move left only when I want to pass someone. The way it should be. But perpetual left-lane drivers screw it all up for everyone.
Anyway, I no longer get aggravated about it. I just learned to drive faster when passing so they don't have any chance to box me in. No anger, no stress. I just go by and continue on my way without giving them another thought.
06-09-2019, 07:59 PM
#48
Burning Brakes
The people who don't understand that the left lane is not a fast lane but a passing lane. Even if you're cruising at 130 in on a 65-mph freeway, you should be int he right lane unless you're actually passing someone.
People who apply their brake before the turn signal. Are they slowing down because they're turning left, turning right, because there's something in the road, or simply braking for no sensible reason. All of these are reasonable possibilities and the use of the turn signal lets the driver behind know what's going on.
Furthermore, the proper sequence when turning is turn signal, change to the appropriate lane--completely, with nor corner of the car dragging the previous lane, braking for the corner, and executing the turn. Not one in 20 drivers does this correctly.
People who apply their brake before the turn signal. Are they slowing down because they're turning left, turning right, because there's something in the road, or simply braking for no sensible reason. All of these are reasonable possibilities and the use of the turn signal lets the driver behind know what's going on.
Furthermore, the proper sequence when turning is turn signal, change to the appropriate lane--completely, with nor corner of the car dragging the previous lane, braking for the corner, and executing the turn. Not one in 20 drivers does this correctly.
06-09-2019, 08:15 PM
#49
The people who don't understand that the left lane is not a fast lane but a passing lane. Even if you're cruising at 130 in on a 65-mph freeway, you should be int he right lane unless you're actually passing someone.
People who apply their brake before the turn signal. Are they slowing down because they're turning left, turning right, because there's something in the road, or simply braking for no sensible reason. All of these are reasonable possibilities and the use of the turn signal lets the driver behind know what's going on.
Furthermore, the proper sequence when turning is turn signal, change to the appropriate lane--completely, with nor corner of the car dragging the previous lane, braking for the corner, and executing the turn. Not one in 20 drivers does this correctly.
People who apply their brake before the turn signal. Are they slowing down because they're turning left, turning right, because there's something in the road, or simply braking for no sensible reason. All of these are reasonable possibilities and the use of the turn signal lets the driver behind know what's going on.
Furthermore, the proper sequence when turning is turn signal, change to the appropriate lane--completely, with nor corner of the car dragging the previous lane, braking for the corner, and executing the turn. Not one in 20 drivers does this correctly.
06-09-2019, 09:59 PM
#50
I wonder about left lane as only a passing lane. If you’re faster than everyone then you’re always passing. If you notice someone behind you can move over to let them pass you. Constantly moving over to pass and then going back to the middle lane would be tiresome, especially with how people drive in CA.
Issue is if they are not faster than everybody.
06-09-2019, 10:27 PM
#51
Rennlist Member
If you really want to get annoyed by thing, visit Tucson. Almost all of the signals there have a left turn green arrow that comes on AFTER the main signal turns red. That conditions people to sit behind the white line until the green arrow comes on. But some intersections have only the standard signal with no arrow. I have sat behind drivers who waited through multiple cycles because they would not pull into the intersection on the standard green.
06-09-2019, 10:30 PM
#52
Burning Brakes
I wonder about left lane as only a passing lane. If you’re faster than everyone then you’re always passing. If you notice someone behind you can move over to let them pass you. Constantly moving over to pass and then going back to the middle lane would be tiresome, especially with how people drive in CA.
And in the country where our cars are produced, that's the way they drive. No hogging the left lane, no passing on the right, and paying attention. It's wonderful.
06-09-2019, 10:58 PM
#53
Doing things right is often tiresome. And can you promise that will always notice people coming up behind you early enough that they don't have to slow down? If you stay in the right lane except when you're passing, you don't have to monitoring your rear view mirror so diligently.
And in the country where our cars are produced, that's the way they drive. No hogging the left lane, no passing on the right, and paying attention. It's wonderful.
And in the country where our cars are produced, that's the way they drive. No hogging the left lane, no passing on the right, and paying attention. It's wonderful.
06-09-2019, 11:10 PM
#54
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I wonder about left lane as only a passing lane. If you’re faster than everyone then you’re always passing. If you notice someone behind you can move over to let them pass you. Constantly moving over to pass and then going back to the middle lane would be tiresome, especially with how people drive in CA.
Tiresome, how heavy is your blinker stalk? Lol
Obviously you’re not going to be moving back and forth like a slalom course, should be done within reason. We’re trying to be better than those drivers.
06-10-2019, 12:26 AM
#55
Left lane as a passing-only lane is as dead as the dinosaurs in the US. In many places, traffic is too heavy and the temptation of an open lane is too great for road warriors to resist.
Enforcing any laws regarding slow traffic to the right? There aren't enough LEOs to begin to do that. They could spend the entire day catching red light/stop sign runners, they can't even do that as they're humping calls all shift.
We are on our own when driving, you can control your own behavior for sure, but expecting others to equal your standards? Forget it, that was one of the reasons I retired at 48 yrs of age, as soon as I could. Trying to keep my subordinate standards to a high level only got me chest pain and even a transfer to the equivalent of Siberia once.
Enforcing any laws regarding slow traffic to the right? There aren't enough LEOs to begin to do that. They could spend the entire day catching red light/stop sign runners, they can't even do that as they're humping calls all shift.
We are on our own when driving, you can control your own behavior for sure, but expecting others to equal your standards? Forget it, that was one of the reasons I retired at 48 yrs of age, as soon as I could. Trying to keep my subordinate standards to a high level only got me chest pain and even a transfer to the equivalent of Siberia once.
06-10-2019, 01:35 AM
#56
Rennlist Member
I'm annoyed by drivers of American cars that feel the need to rev their engines when they see a Porsche. I'm not revving. I'm not showing off. Yet, they feel the need to display aggression.
Mostly Corvettes and Mustangs.
Mostly Corvettes and Mustangs.
06-10-2019, 11:10 AM
#58
Rennlist Member
I was pulling up to a red light in my 7MT 991.2 GTS. I was going slowly because there was construction at the intersection and there was a pretty deep rut across my entire lane. I gently rolled the front tires, then the rear tires, down into and then back up and out of the rut. But I was too gentle with the rears, and I rolled backwards into the rut. So basically, I was riding the clutch a little to roll the car back out of the rut. Which I finally did and I could then fully stop for the red light. I had the car in sport mode, so the engine was growling a little the whole time - not loudly or aggressively, but more than if I was entirely off the gas, as I was revving a little cross the rut extremely slowly, riding the clutch, without stalling the engine.
Meanwhile, there was a guy next to me in an older, totally innocuous, non sports-car of some type. I looked over and he was grinning at me and he said, mockingly I believe, "I'm terrified". He didn't realize, I think, my struggles with the rut across my lane - and just thought I was daring him to race away from the light by rolling my car back and forth and quietly revving the engine w/quiet gurgles and pops.
I felt kind of stupid, but had to laugh because I could see how it must have looked from his perspective.
06-10-2019, 11:58 AM
#59
Three Wheelin'
Every Black and White and Silver Honda , Hyundai ,and Kia .... Damn Uber drivers everywhere constantly meandering between lanes hitting the brakes or stopping in the middle of traffic looking for their addresses or fares.
06-10-2019, 12:03 PM
#60
Burning Brakes
Left lane as a passing-only lane is as dead as the dinosaurs in the US. In many places, traffic is too heavy and the temptation of an open lane is too great for road warriors to resist.
Enforcing any laws regarding slow traffic to the right? There aren't enough LEOs to begin to do that. They could spend the entire day catching red light/stop sign runners, they can't even do that as they're humping calls all shift.
We are on our own when driving, you can control your own behavior for sure, but expecting others to equal your standards? Forget it, that was one of the reasons I retired at 48 yrs of age, as soon as I could. Trying to keep my subordinate standards to a high level only got me chest pain and even a transfer to the equivalent of Siberia once.
Enforcing any laws regarding slow traffic to the right? There aren't enough LEOs to begin to do that. They could spend the entire day catching red light/stop sign runners, they can't even do that as they're humping calls all shift.
We are on our own when driving, you can control your own behavior for sure, but expecting others to equal your standards? Forget it, that was one of the reasons I retired at 48 yrs of age, as soon as I could. Trying to keep my subordinate standards to a high level only got me chest pain and even a transfer to the equivalent of Siberia once.
So there is some lane discipline going on. It just exactly backwards from what it should be.