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Old 06-01-2019, 04:15 PM
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I'm suspicious of the Red Manual Endurance Racing Edition. He does not show the build sheet or the window sticker. He does not show the VIN or a CarFax report, so no way to check what the factory says it is.
Mine is a Black Endurance Racing Edition, purchased new 11 months ago with dealer-installed X51 PowerKit and I love it, purchased at a typical low-optioned C2S price. But I'm very suspicious about that manual Red one. If it's what he claims it is, a serious collector would have already bought it. And it would not have nearly 700 miles on it.
He needs to prove it is the unicorn he says it is! Maybe it's an after-purchase manual tranny conversion, but if so it's presented in a fraudulent manner.
Show the world the Porsche window sticker or build sheet, or shut up!
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Originally Posted by Paliknight
I’m confused. Why is this car rare? I thought all 991 years could be optioned with a manual (except for TT’s).
It was a special edition to celebrate Porsche’s success in WEC: 239 were made, and manual was standard (PDK optional). But other than the livery and a few decorative bits, the car was a Standard Carrera S loaded with performance options (PASM, PSE, SC, RAS, etc.)
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Originally Posted by PCA1983
I'm suspicious of the Red Manual Endurance Racing Edition. He does not show the build sheet or the window sticker. He does not show the VIN or a CarFax report, so no way to check what the factory says it is.
Mine is a Black Endurance Racing Edition, purchased new 11 months ago with dealer-installed X51 PowerKit and I love it, purchased at a typical low-optioned C2S price. But I'm very suspicious about that manual Red one. If it's what he claims it is, a serious collector would have already bought it. And it would not have nearly 700 miles on it.
He needs to prove it is the unicorn he says it is! Maybe it's an after-purchase manual tranny conversion, but if so it's presented in a fraudulent manner.
Show the world the Porsche window sticker or build sheet, or shut up!
Admit it.. He got you
Old 06-01-2019, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PCA1983
I'm suspicious of the Red Manual Endurance Racing Edition. He does not show the build sheet or the window sticker. He does not show the VIN or a CarFax report, so no way to check what the factory says it is.
Mine is a Black Endurance Racing Edition, purchased new 11 months ago with dealer-installed X51 PowerKit and I love it, purchased at a typical low-optioned C2S price. But I'm very suspicious about that manual Red one. If it's what he claims it is, a serious collector would have already bought it. And it would not have nearly 700 miles on it.
He needs to prove it is the unicorn he says it is! Maybe it's an after-purchase manual tranny conversion, but if so it's presented in a fraudulent manner.
Show the world the Porsche window sticker or build sheet, or shut up!
There's an article about this car here, which shows a letter from Porsche saying it the only Manual ERE in the US.
https://carbuzz.com/news/we-found-a-...-porsche-911-r

VIN is WP0AB2A9XHS122842
https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A9XHS122842/
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It's still overpriced by ~$200,000.
Old 06-01-2019, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fastforddriver
It's still overpriced by ~$200,000.
...at least
Old 06-02-2019, 11:35 AM
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Build sheet is showing build date as April 1st 2016!
Old April fool's joke?
Old 06-02-2019, 02:52 PM
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OK. I looked and it's a fraud. It's not a Weissach Endurance Racing Edition. It has the wrong options, and in fact, it doesn't even have the Endurance Racing Edition Weissach option. And it's VIN is not in the range of Endurance Racing Edition VINs.

It's fraud if anyone is sucker enough to bite. It's worth maybe $105k, tops.
Old 06-02-2019, 03:11 PM
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Surprised there's some serious talk here...y'all know its a scam right? They are plenty of similar ones on cars.com.

The goal of the ad is to raise excitement and urgency so that you email the Nigerian. He'll eventually throw one of a number of scams to steal your money.

This is amazing I actually think he's successfully fooling people! I thought it would be really obvious...
Old 06-02-2019, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PCA1983
OK. I looked and it's a fraud. It's not a Weissach Endurance Racing Edition. It has the wrong options, and in fact, it doesn't even have the Endurance Racing Edition Weissach option. And it's VIN is not in the range of Endurance Racing Edition VINs.

It's fraud if anyone is sucker enough to bite. It's worth maybe $105k, tops.
Damn. Good detective work! Crazy there was that bs article on it then. Fooled me for sure.
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Originally Posted by minthral
Surprised there's some serious talk here...y'all know its a scam right? They are plenty of similar ones on cars.com.

The goal of the ad is to raise excitement and urgency so that you email the Nigerian. He'll eventually throw one of a number of scams to steal your money.

This is amazing I actually think he's successfully fooling people! I thought it would be really obvious...
You really think this is a Nigerian scam? I think it's just some shmuck trying to pull a quick one on somebody.
Old 06-02-2019, 07:05 PM
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Yeah I thought it was a scam in the sense of you own a Carrera S, throw some stickers on it and try to convince people it's the only one like it in the world.

I can't imagine anyone with that kind of money is going to read that ad and take it seriously... it looks like a regular S (which it is) with a hood decal. And the grammar, the yelling, and the blatant lies tells you all you need to know whether this a real person or not.
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Build date of April 1st, April fools joke that stills going around d
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This car is back! Now on Bring-a-Trailer:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...ing-edition-2/

The VIN in the letter matches the VIN sticker on the car and the VIN listed on the window sticker. Maybe it is real?

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Old 03-30-2020, 11:34 AM
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It looks like it was a very nicely optioned Carrera S built 2 months before the 235 ERE were built in June 2016. The ERE built in June all had the same exact options list, event they see are priced in Red, Black, White. Just glancing at its options list from VinAnalytics.com and comparing it to mine, it has some different prions, and no CJS Endurance Racing Edition option. My guess is it has dealer installed CJS decals. There is no mention of the ERE car cover, so I'm going to guess it is a poser.

It does appear to be a virtually new C2S with great options. It appears to be a decent buy at $100k asking price. Having said that, I like mine better with its X51 PowerKit and new car warranty thru 6/28/2022.

Here is the option list for it:
Division: PCNA Commission #: 0
Prod Month: 2016-04-01 VIN: WP0AB2A9XHS122842 Price: $149,840.00 Exterior: Guards Red Interior: Leather Interior in Black Warranty Start: July 29, 2016
BASE 911 Carrera S 022 Instrument Dials in Black 031 Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) incl. PASM Sport Suspension (20 mm Lower) 433 20" Carrera S Wheels 446 Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest 487 Manual Transmission 497 Rear Model Designation Painted 581 Luggage net in passenger footwell 583 Smoking package 651 Electric slide/tilt sunroof 9VL BOSE® Surround Sound System AZ Leather interior in Black EKG Carbon Fiber Interior Package i.c.w. Leather Interior G1 Guards Red P07 Adaptive Sport Seats Plus (18-way) with Memory Package P3F Premium Package i.c.w. Adaptive Sport Seats Plus (18-way) P3P Sport Package QH1 Voice Control XDG Wheels Painted in Black (High-Gloss) XES Preparation door-sill guards, illuminated XEY LED Headlights in Black incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) XHH Gear Lever in Carbon Fiber XSC Porsche Crest on headrests XSX Seat belts in Guards Red XWP Seat Center in Alcantara

Here is the option list for my ERE
Division: PCNA Commission #: B06609
Prod Month: 2016-06-18 VIN: WP0AB2A98HS123133 Price: $152,365.00 Exterior: Black Interior: Leather Interior in Black
BASE 911 Carrera S 022 Instrument Dials in Black 031 Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) incl. PASM Sport Suspension (20 mm Lower) 250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 497 Rear Model Designation Painted 581 Luggage net in passenger footwell 583 Smoking package 651 Electric slide/tilt sunroof 90066 12 O'clock Marking on Steering Wheel in Red 9VL Bose Surround Sound System A1 Black AZ Leather interior in Black CJS Endurance Racing Edition Package CWJ PORSCHE Logo and Model Designation Painted EKG Carbon Fiber Interior Package i.c.w. Leather Interior P06 Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package P3E Premium Package Plus i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way) P3P Sport Package XDG Wheels Painted in Black i.c.w. 911 Turbo Design Wheels XES Preparation door-sill guards, illuminated XSC Porsche Crest on headrests XSX Seat belts in Guards Red


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