Very slow tire leak repair
#1
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Very slow tire leak repair
Last time I had a leak dealer refused to plug it. New tire was about $600. OK, that leak was a gusher.
This time, for the right front tire, If I left the car sitting for two months the tire would lose half the air.
My local independent caught a tiny nail (without removing the wheel from the car) and plugged it with some kind of vulcanizing plug, which will eventually melt into the tire rubber. They say these plugs have never failed.
Total cost = $23.79
Thank god for independent shops!
This time, for the right front tire, If I left the car sitting for two months the tire would lose half the air.
My local independent caught a tiny nail (without removing the wheel from the car) and plugged it with some kind of vulcanizing plug, which will eventually melt into the tire rubber. They say these plugs have never failed.
Total cost = $23.79
Thank god for independent shops!
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I watched them try to use their lift and it was obvious there would be a problem, so they used a portable jack only at the front wheel, high enough to spin the tire for inspection.
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Pick up a cheap (~$55) set of custom pucks from a Rennlister that makes them and throw them in the frunk so they are with the car if you, or a shop, needs them.
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Last time I had a leak dealer refused to plug it. New tire was about $600. OK, that leak was a gusher.
This time, for the right front tire, If I left the car sitting for two months the tire would lose half the air.
My local independent caught a tiny nail (without removing the wheel from the car) and plugged it with some kind of vulcanizing plug, which will eventually melt into the tire rubber. They say these plugs have never failed.
Total cost = $23.79
Thank god for independent shops!
This time, for the right front tire, If I left the car sitting for two months the tire would lose half the air.
My local independent caught a tiny nail (without removing the wheel from the car) and plugged it with some kind of vulcanizing plug, which will eventually melt into the tire rubber. They say these plugs have never failed.
Total cost = $23.79
Thank god for independent shops!
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It's not necessarily dealer vs independent - it's got more to do with location of the leak and liability... The deal with plugs/patches is that 1) they cannot happen anywhere near the sidewall - that's just not safe - and 90% of the time that is where you get the nail (dammit!)
2) they lower the speed rating of the tire because, well, they're a plug, different compound etc...
The dealer obviously does not want the liability because your car could be driven on the Nurburgring at 190mph tomorrow. They will also push for a generally pricier "N" (porsche approved) rated tire, because they are a dealer, which you can also live without. My right rear is plugged because that's the one that collects nails. I replaced it once and plugged it once in 10K miles, PITA.. . I can't say I care about that plug. I'll even track it "as is" (that's my decision) because tracks I run don't really let you go more than 130/135, and I check tire pressure between runs. Ideally for track duty you *should* have unpatched tires - for street, unless you are made of money, patching is perfectly fine. Maybe the one the dealer refused to do was too close to the sidewall...
2) they lower the speed rating of the tire because, well, they're a plug, different compound etc...
The dealer obviously does not want the liability because your car could be driven on the Nurburgring at 190mph tomorrow. They will also push for a generally pricier "N" (porsche approved) rated tire, because they are a dealer, which you can also live without. My right rear is plugged because that's the one that collects nails. I replaced it once and plugged it once in 10K miles, PITA.. . I can't say I care about that plug. I'll even track it "as is" (that's my decision) because tracks I run don't really let you go more than 130/135, and I check tire pressure between runs. Ideally for track duty you *should* have unpatched tires - for street, unless you are made of money, patching is perfectly fine. Maybe the one the dealer refused to do was too close to the sidewall...
#7
This past weekend I discovered a slow leak in my left rear tire. I also have a two year road hazard policy which covers repairs and/or full replacement. I conducted some research to determine when a tire is considered “unrepairable.” I found most searches have very similar guidelines (see attachment) and I also used the recommendations of my Indy Shop. I realize Porsche WILL NOT patch a tire and since I don’t track my vehicle I was fortunate my tire was repairable. My tire was plugged with a “Patch Plug” and the process involved several steps to prep the area to accept the patch.
1.) Locate and mark/highlight area requiring patch.
2.) Pre Clean the area with Rubber Prep.
3.) Grind the area to accept patch with a grinder; AKA - Air Buffer
4.) Clean out puncture with proper drill bit specialized to match plug/patch.
5.) Blow area clean.
6.) Apply Contact Cement and let it air dry.
7.) Apply patch and use specialized tool (Stitching Tool) to properly bond patch to tire.
8.) Remove thin plastic layer from patch.
9.) Apply vulcanizing cement over patch.
10.) Cut Pigtail leveled with tire thread.
One inch screw
Tire Repairable Guidelines
Plug Patch.
6.) Pull Pi
1.) Locate and mark/highlight area requiring patch.
2.) Pre Clean the area with Rubber Prep.
3.) Grind the area to accept patch with a grinder; AKA - Air Buffer
4.) Clean out puncture with proper drill bit specialized to match plug/patch.
5.) Blow area clean.
6.) Apply Contact Cement and let it air dry.
7.) Apply patch and use specialized tool (Stitching Tool) to properly bond patch to tire.
8.) Remove thin plastic layer from patch.
9.) Apply vulcanizing cement over patch.
10.) Cut Pigtail leveled with tire thread.
One inch screw
Tire Repairable Guidelines
Plug Patch.
6.) Pull Pi
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#8
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You are partially correct. Tire Rack’s road hazard policy states A or B; repairable or non-repairable. It’s not my choice, the tech makes the call. Now, if I took the tire to a dealership the outcome would have been a new tire because they don’t repair tires. I could have pushed for a new tire, and I still have the option to move in that direction if the patch fails.
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Looks close, on the borderline, of the repairable area
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Didn’t want to start a new thread just to complain so I jumped on this old one.
My Targa GTS developed a slow leak in the rear passenger tire. Been crazy busy so I used the frunk compressor to inflate it and have been monitoring the leak. Dropped 7psi while I was at work today. The really annoying part is in a rush this morning I used the center console socket and the inflator turned on for a second and then stopped. I switched it to the passenger footwell socket and inflated it. Come home from work, wanted to inflate it again, used the footwell socket and same thing, turned on for a second then stopped. Looks like the compressor blew both fuses (I’m assuming, haven’t had a chance to check them). I’m really annoyed. Any chance it could be something else?
thanks
My Targa GTS developed a slow leak in the rear passenger tire. Been crazy busy so I used the frunk compressor to inflate it and have been monitoring the leak. Dropped 7psi while I was at work today. The really annoying part is in a rush this morning I used the center console socket and the inflator turned on for a second and then stopped. I switched it to the passenger footwell socket and inflated it. Come home from work, wanted to inflate it again, used the footwell socket and same thing, turned on for a second then stopped. Looks like the compressor blew both fuses (I’m assuming, haven’t had a chance to check them). I’m really annoyed. Any chance it could be something else?
thanks
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I have tracked my car with patches, as long as they are done properly they should hold up just fine. But at the same time I am track newb and don't push as hard as a lot of guys out there. But for beginner DE's they are probably fine assuming the repair was done properly