curious how everyone else tracks their car. I drive PSM Sport. Last winter I had my rear end come out that I could not control, spun out and hit the barrier. I vowed I want to enjoy my car not crash it so kept PSM on all next spring. Was the worst ever. You just cannot trailbrake as PSM always kicks in and spoils the fun. I hated driving that way and my times were horrible. Over autumn I worked up the courage to put the car back on PSM Sport. My god night and day. I have so much fun learning that perfect trailbrake moment when you brake right and the rearend steers into the corner. I just avoid some of the faster scarier corners with any late trailbraking. I’m slower overall than before but much faster than PSM on and with ten times the enjoyment.

My question is. Should I just be driving with PSM off? I don’t actually know what PSM Sport does and if it actually “saves” me in any knarly moments. Every time I over drifted I lose control and spin out anyways. PSM Sport never kicked in to save me. Or rather, yes it did kick in but it was never enough to save me. Along this reasoning, I’m thinking maybe the combination of me trying to correct my over drift and PSM Sport kicking in perhaps might have been the detriment to my spinning out? Maybe if it was just completely off I perhaps would have more control and be able to save myself?

any insights by seasoned track drivers here? I want to try with PSM off but that is another level of mental barrier of courage I must go over and would love some insight before I make a mistake.

Highly recommend that you get some time on a skid pad if there is one available where you live. Learning car control at speed on dry pavement can be an expensive process.

To be honest, I have not had my 991.2 on the track enough yet to know whether PSM on is too intrusive. PSM Sport is intended for track driving and should be your best choice WHEN you have developed at least moderate car control skill. That you say you spin out fairly often suggests you are overdriving the car a bit. Get some in car instruction if that is not already happening.

PSM in my experience is quite helpful, but intrusiveness does vary between different cars and model years. Instructors of relatively inexperienced drivers often view PSM as a learning tool—if the PSM light is turning on, try to figure out how to change your driving to keep it off.

All of this is confusing terminology! Are we talking PSM or PASM? Sport and Sport Plus go w PASM but PSM is either on or off (actually it is never completely off even in “off”) On a dry track I run PASM & Sport Plus mode. Wet, PASM and just sport! I have never turned off PSM on or off the track! That is how you “kissed” the wall! Please Save Me is your last defense and bacon saver! But do what you want. Remember it isn’t racing (HPDE)

Not confusing at all and no typo either. PSM sport is a separate setting between PSM fully on and PSM fully off. On the 991.2. PASM of course has nothing to do with PSM.

http://www.porscheownersmanuals.com/...8PSM%29+pg.211

In previous cars (non 911s) I always drive on the track with partial stability control. I have taken my Targa 4 GTS to the track once now. I left PSM on and had car in sport plus and PDCC on. I never felt stability contol do anything or saw any lights. However, I wonder if my excessive brake pad wear had something to do with PSM. The last couple weeks since my track day, I have been putting PSM in sport. My goal is to see if and when I feel a difference when I do some spirited runs. I did one yesterday and not much to report. No negative effects. It felt a little loser overall though. I intend to try it next track day in sport.

another great reason that 991.1 cars and 991.2 cars should have separate RL forums!

Thank you