Should I sell my 991.2 GTS?
02-11-2019, 03:13 PM
#46
Rennlist Member
I am not so patiently waiting for my Targa GTS to arrive. I can relate with your feelings.
However, starting up a GT350 vs. a Porsche GTS is much more of an event. I went from a Z51, to a GT350, to an SL550, to an AMG GTS (yes, I have serious problems).
There is absolutely a difference in the way all these cars feel even just upon start-up. I actually want the Porsche because I want something more refined. I want it for the balance of supercar with luxury car. The GT350 is much more of an "event" IMHO. There is no balance. It is all beast. I do agree though that I am mostly ignorant of the Porsche at the moment, but I think you get my point.
Doesn't take anything away from how awesome the GTS is. It is just a different type of car.
However, starting up a GT350 vs. a Porsche GTS is much more of an event. I went from a Z51, to a GT350, to an SL550, to an AMG GTS (yes, I have serious problems).
There is absolutely a difference in the way all these cars feel even just upon start-up. I actually want the Porsche because I want something more refined. I want it for the balance of supercar with luxury car. The GT350 is much more of an "event" IMHO. There is no balance. It is all beast. I do agree though that I am mostly ignorant of the Porsche at the moment, but I think you get my point.
Doesn't take anything away from how awesome the GTS is. It is just a different type of car.
I'm not trying to compare it to a GT350, but I actually found the startup experience on my GTS to be more of an event than I was expecting. When I was doing test drives, the dealer started up the GTS inside the warehouse while I was outside. He brought it outside for me to hop in and drive. So I never heard the startup clearly. I started a Cayman GTS, and a 911 Carrera base. Those were more subtle than the GTS.
I kind of like the GTS. It's not totally obnoxious loud, but it's not subtle either, IMO. You might be pleasantly surprised. When I fired it up in my parking spot on our town's main street on Sunday around noon, it caused heads to turn up and down the street. I usually tend to like flying under the radar, so anything more would probably bug me a little.
02-11-2019, 06:52 PM
#47
Race Director
Personally, I didn't know how cheap a Mustang looked and felt UNTIL I checked it out.
And, I like my deviated stitching, it reminds me that I bought something that has quality throughout - and not just in the engine and a couple of other go fast parts. I don't think that makes me a snob.
And, I like my deviated stitching, it reminds me that I bought something that has quality throughout - and not just in the engine and a couple of other go fast parts. I don't think that makes me a snob.
How you feel the color of a piece of thread relates to quality, I'm not sure. But I'll agree that a full leather 911 interior is nice, but thats not all that important to everyone.
As to having a "blast" driving an empty cargo van...I guess I'm just not as cool as you.
02-11-2019, 11:24 PM
#49
typical BS in here.
Its a $50k vehicle, of course its not going to have the build quality or luxury of a $100k+ 911. if you care about interior plastics, you wouldn't be looking at a mustang in the first place.
On the other hand, if you want something that is an event to drive and you don't use often, the mustang is a good choice. Sounds great, awesome grunt, solid shifter, good handling and braking, etc.
A 911 is not really an event to drive (gt3, rs, xyz fancy model potentially excluded). They are very capable but for the most part, not super exciting. All the "i drive spirited on canyon roads" people can calm down. You are likely using about 50% of the vehicle's capabilities so I'm not sure how exciting it can be. At least with the mustang, you get the attitude, sound, and short bursts of power from that V8 while you are not coming close to the car's limits.
See if you can rent a gt350 on touro for a few days and see what you think. Ignore the deviated stitching snobs.
Its a $50k vehicle, of course its not going to have the build quality or luxury of a $100k+ 911. if you care about interior plastics, you wouldn't be looking at a mustang in the first place.
On the other hand, if you want something that is an event to drive and you don't use often, the mustang is a good choice. Sounds great, awesome grunt, solid shifter, good handling and braking, etc.
A 911 is not really an event to drive (gt3, rs, xyz fancy model potentially excluded). They are very capable but for the most part, not super exciting. All the "i drive spirited on canyon roads" people can calm down. You are likely using about 50% of the vehicle's capabilities so I'm not sure how exciting it can be. At least with the mustang, you get the attitude, sound, and short bursts of power from that V8 while you are not coming close to the car's limits.
See if you can rent a gt350 on touro for a few days and see what you think. Ignore the deviated stitching snobs.
02-12-2019, 12:39 AM
#50
Rennlist Member
Several years ago you could rent a pickup from U-Haul that must have had a Corvette engine or something in it. It was ridiculously quick, lots of fun to toss and slide around. Good hoonage is where you find it. 
Just be sure to pay them the extra $10/day for the loss/damage waiver...
Just be sure to pay them the extra $10/day for the loss/damage waiver...
02-12-2019, 08:10 AM
#52
Race Director
Have you ever driven a MT 991.2 GTS hard before? Based on you stating "a 911 is not really an event to drive," I have to believe that you haven't. I mean I guess if you're driving the car like a grandma worried about keeping the car in museum-quality condition with a garage-queen mileage number then I guess it wouldn't be an "event to drive."
I have a 993tt and just sold a 997tt after 4 years. im aware what 911s are about. the modern ones are very competent but thats pretty useless on public roads, hence i go to the track.
Anyone who says they explore the limits of a modern 911 on public roads is a liar or a moron.
And my 993 has 100k miles on it, so im not in your museum collector category.
02-12-2019, 09:05 PM
#54
991.2 gts, no. 991.2, yes.
I have a 993tt and just sold a 997tt after 4 years. im aware what 911s are about. the modern ones are very competent but thats pretty useless on public roads, hence i go to the track.
Anyone who says they explore the limits of a modern 911 on public roads is a liar or a moron.
And my 993 has 100k miles on it, so im not in your museum collector category.
I have a 993tt and just sold a 997tt after 4 years. im aware what 911s are about. the modern ones are very competent but thats pretty useless on public roads, hence i go to the track.
Anyone who says they explore the limits of a modern 911 on public roads is a liar or a moron.
And my 993 has 100k miles on it, so im not in your museum collector category.
02-13-2019, 12:09 PM
#55
991.2 gts, no. 991.2, yes.
I have a 993tt and just sold a 997tt after 4 years. im aware what 911s are about. the modern ones are very competent but thats pretty useless on public roads, hence i go to the track.
Anyone who says they explore the limits of a modern 911 on public roads is a liar or a moron.
And my 993 has 100k miles on it, so im not in your museum collector category.
I have a 993tt and just sold a 997tt after 4 years. im aware what 911s are about. the modern ones are very competent but thats pretty useless on public roads, hence i go to the track.
Anyone who says they explore the limits of a modern 911 on public roads is a liar or a moron.
And my 993 has 100k miles on it, so im not in your museum collector category.
Totally agree that I don’t even come close to testing the limits of mine on public roads and indeed if I was to say that I was then yes, I would totally fit in your liar/moron category.
02-13-2019, 12:11 PM
#56
Hi guys,
I just had my one year anniversary on my 2017 991.2 GTS that I bought new in 2018. I only have a whopping 4.1k miles on the clock. Just wished I had the time and right circumstances to enjoy it more. I have a comfortable DD that I use for commuting and only drive the GTS to work when I know I won't be in LA bumper to bumper traffic. I'm thinking of selling the GTS and downgrading to something less expensive like a Mustang GT350. Any GT350 owners out there that can provide feedback. I know it's no GTS but it'll probably be loads of fun (I don't track) and will sound great. Anyway, would love to get input from anyone going from a 911 to a GT350, plus if anyone is interested in a carmine red GTS, PDK, 4.1k miles, fully loaded (original sticker was $151k) let me know.
I just had my one year anniversary on my 2017 991.2 GTS that I bought new in 2018. I only have a whopping 4.1k miles on the clock. Just wished I had the time and right circumstances to enjoy it more. I have a comfortable DD that I use for commuting and only drive the GTS to work when I know I won't be in LA bumper to bumper traffic. I'm thinking of selling the GTS and downgrading to something less expensive like a Mustang GT350. Any GT350 owners out there that can provide feedback. I know it's no GTS but it'll probably be loads of fun (I don't track) and will sound great. Anyway, would love to get input from anyone going from a 911 to a GT350, plus if anyone is interested in a carmine red GTS, PDK, 4.1k miles, fully loaded (original sticker was $151k) let me know.
02-13-2019, 12:57 PM
#57
That was my thought as well. The GTS is a perfect daily driver. Fast, comfortable, luxurious. I even take all my 3 kids to school in it. A GT350 seems like it would be a lesser daily driver.
02-13-2019, 03:22 PM
#58
Hi guys,
I just had my one year anniversary on my 2017 991.2 GTS that I bought new in 2018. I only have a whopping 4.1k miles on the clock. Just wished I had the time and right circumstances to enjoy it more. I have a comfortable DD that I use for commuting and only drive the GTS to work when I know I won't be in LA bumper to bumper traffic. I'm thinking of selling the GTS and downgrading to something less expensive like a Mustang GT350. Any GT350 owners out there that can provide feedback. I know it's no GTS but it'll probably be loads of fun (I don't track) and will sound great. Anyway, would love to get input from anyone going from a 911 to a GT350, plus if anyone is interested in a carmine red GTS, PDK, 4.1k miles, fully loaded (original sticker was $151k) let me know.
I just had my one year anniversary on my 2017 991.2 GTS that I bought new in 2018. I only have a whopping 4.1k miles on the clock. Just wished I had the time and right circumstances to enjoy it more. I have a comfortable DD that I use for commuting and only drive the GTS to work when I know I won't be in LA bumper to bumper traffic. I'm thinking of selling the GTS and downgrading to something less expensive like a Mustang GT350. Any GT350 owners out there that can provide feedback. I know it's no GTS but it'll probably be loads of fun (I don't track) and will sound great. Anyway, would love to get input from anyone going from a 911 to a GT350, plus if anyone is interested in a carmine red GTS, PDK, 4.1k miles, fully loaded (original sticker was $151k) let me know.
I had one for 6 months. I love it when I'm on the track and absolutely hate it when I'm not.
The car has no torque below 5500 rpm. It definitely does not feel like a 520 HP car under normal load. Jumping from GT350 to a GT3, the GT3 (991.2) is so torque'y that it almost feels like it has a turbo.
While it can't move fast under low rpm, it is still super loud. Kinda stupid when you are making so much noise but not going anywhere.
Steering is too sensitive and jumpy on bad road surface. Extremely tiring for road trip.
Though I don't really care, but the GT350 is a Mustang. Build quality is like a $20K car. Just cheap plastic, loose and squeaky interior penal everywhere. And it has the thinnest paint I have ever seen. 911 GTS to a GT350 is a big big step back if you do care about detail....
Don't forget to check the engine replacement thread on Mustang6g. Worth reading for all potential GT350 buyers.
Again, the car is a beast on the track. Youtubers praised it like it is the best car for the price. It is true only when you have the space to push it really hard.
I don't see any reason for you to replace your GTS with a GT350, at all.
04-10-2019, 05:51 PM
#60
Might as well chime in here. Been gone a long time. Had a 2019 Bullitt. Got rid of it after 550 miles. Typical Ford POS. Poor build quality, engine issues, dirt in paint etc. I will never buy another Ford product again. Of the 3 I have had in my life I have had trouble with every single one! On my 8th 911. Never had an issue with any of them. Keep your car!
The point of my story is the OP should keep the 911 GTS it is a fantastic car! I have had my 991.2 base coupe for 3-years now and have no plans to get rid of it.
Last edited by Mark-991.2; 04-10-2019 at 06:35 PM.