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Cyberbug 01-18-2019 01:03 AM

Porsche Connect and Car Connect Plus 2018+
 
I am going to keep this short and simple.

Plenty of info on the forum about it. Many of us have been confused about it. This is to simplify for those who just want to get this setup quickly.
I have not picked up my car yet but I set them up already. All you need is a VIN number, you don’t need sim id etc. for 2018+ cars.

For Car Connect:
You can sign up for the service here: https://pcc.vodafonetelematics.com/cwp/login.do

Just follow instructions, you will get a code. Send it to your dealer or take it with you, they will use the code to activate it. After which you can add services etc. pretty simple. Dealer needs to put the code in the car. So do it at pickup or visit later.

For Car Connect Plus:
You can sign up for the service here: https://myvehicle.att.com/#/porsche/learn-page?country=US&language=en

Just follow instructions, use your VIN number, you get 3 month free. You can choose a plan as you wish. I already added it to my att shared account.

that is it. No need to get confused about setup or call att or porsche.

this was a public service post to make it easy for fellow members.

good2go 01-18-2019 11:09 AM

I looked at car connect and did not see any value and did not set it up. What do you like about car connect?

plus - does it only add WiFi hot spot? What uses the data connect? You phone already has the same data connection so it does not make sense to connect your phone to the WiFi. What uses the data connection?

911boy 01-18-2019 11:20 AM

^agreed. I don't get it....

Cyberbug 01-18-2019 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by good2go (Post 15575265)
I looked at car connect and did not see any value and did not set it up. What do you like about car connect?

plus - does it only add WiFi hot spot? What uses the data connect? You phone already has the same data connection so it does not make sense to connect your phone to the WiFi. What uses the data connection?

car connect is free for a year, you can view and control certain functions via an app. Since its free no harm in trying. For additional cost you can add vehicle tracking and some other functions. You also get climate control. If interested you can look up what you get.
in my MBs, I got 5 years free. The functions I use most is vehicle tracking, in case I want to know where my wife is shopping. Or remote start. Unfortunately remote start is not available in 991.2

connect plus, you get live traffic and google maps plus hot spots. I only care about live traffic and google maps only.


Originally Posted by 911boy (Post 15575289)
^agreed. I don't get it....

don’t have to :thumbsup:

this was meant to help those who are interested in getting it. Not to start another thread on pros and cons, plenty already on the forum

T3X4S 01-18-2019 12:03 PM

Thanks, Cyberbug for the simple clarification and links. I am still debating if I want either of them or just stick with CarPlay only.

tgavem 01-18-2019 12:12 PM

I also think your phone and service need to have "hotspot" enabled as well, anybody verify this?
ATT charges extra to be hotspot enabled.

Stanley Park 01-18-2019 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by good2go (Post 15575265)
I looked at car connect and did not see any value and did not set it up. What do you like about car connect?

Out of curiosity, I activated Porsche Connect on my ’17 C4S last week. Using the car’s wireless connection I was able to download and install an update to the PCM’s North America navigation database (640 MB). This was a pleasant and unexpected benefit as I had previously asked my dealer if any updates were available for the PCM in my car and was always told that there were none.

Scorponok 01-18-2019 04:34 PM

Thanks Cyberbug. You will find that about 30 seconds after setting everything up, you'll stop using it .... it's useless, provides no value and is a waste of time and money, especially when you leverage Apple CarPlay.

Mark993TT 01-18-2019 04:50 PM

Pretty sure you need some form of car connect subscription if you have to use vehicle tracking. Which my insurance company demands.

gellie 01-18-2019 04:59 PM

Agree completely waste of time. Seems like a afterthought.

tstafford 01-18-2019 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by T3X4S (Post 15575396)
Thanks, Cyberbug for the simple clarification and links. I am still debating if I want either of them or just stick with CarPlay only.

I set it up in my C2S that I bought last January. Just traded that on a GT3 and I didn't bother to set it up this time. After a year of not using it, I figured why bother.

craig.martell 01-18-2019 07:18 PM

There are two things about the Connect / Car Connect bundle that are valuable to me, but I am still not sure they are worth the cost:

1. The ability to click on a calendar event and have it pass the address to navigation. I know I can do this on my phone, but in car navigation works even when there is no cell service (unlike Carplay);
2. Automatic crash notification if the airbags go off. This one is probably invaluable, since this is my daily driver and my kids often ride with me.

Craig

Chris - 97C2 01-18-2019 07:57 PM

Thanks, Cyberbug! Was planning on looking into all of it this weekend, so this was a great start. Wish I knew about the dealer part because I was there today. Oh well -- road trip! :)

anythingbuttime 01-18-2019 08:00 PM

I think it is bizarre that I can lock the car form my phone...but I can't unlock it. I see more need to unlock. Am I missing something?

StormRune 01-18-2019 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by tgavem (Post 15575427)
I also think your phone and service need to have "hotspot" enabled as well, anybody verify this?
ATT charges extra to be hotspot enabled.

That is built into the special AT&T/Porsche plan that uses the phone number assigned to your car (although it is a data-only number). It does not require anything special on your personal phone.

StormRune 01-18-2019 08:34 PM

If you use your phone you have to manually rebind it each time to use it (at least on my 2017). With Car Connect the connection is automatic. The most visible benefit I see is using Google Earth maps with satellite imagery, but you could easily get away without it. It is handy in unfamiliar areas since you can see all of the non-mapped side-roads, buildings, alleys, etc, in great detail. Overall it is a luxury that I can see skipping if you aren;'t interested in such things.

The data connection can be used to interact with the car from your phone,

I posted screenshots of most of the screens in my earlier thread at this post: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1056...l#post14870471.

Cyberbug's post certainly calls out some improvements that have been made since I did this. They've improved both the process of enabling these things and you no longer need to get the external SIM card in the later 2018 models.

Since I occasionally let my son take the car for special occasions (he's a very good driver!), I can use the app to set geo-fences and speed-fences on the car to keep an eye on him and to help discourage from getting a little too frisky with the car. When I take the car in for service I've also set fences and can tell if the car leaves the dealership. I can even tell if it is sitting out in the lot or is in the service area..,. which came in handy when I was getting unhappy with them for an extra-long dealership stay once.

Finally, since I sometimes like to go out solo for back-road aggressive drives in the Hill Country sometimes I like that if something does go wrong, the car will call for help for me. For me it is a worthwhile insurance policy .

StormRune 01-18-2019 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by anythingbuttime (Post 15576544)
I think it is bizarre that I can lock the car form my phone...but I can't unlock it. I see more need to unlock. Am I missing something?

Yeah, that is an oddity. Has to have been some lawyers' idea.

StormRune 01-18-2019 08:48 PM

Here's a couple of photos I've taken of the Google Earth screen to help clarify what I was talking about there. It's a bit sharper in person

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d2ba234aaa.png

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...377e649b8c.jpg

Cyberbug 01-19-2019 10:24 AM

I will have to try connect plus when I get the car. I have been using car connect, I was able to see my car on the sitting at the dealer, I was able to see tire pressures, its got 11miles on it, I was able to see fuel and range. I was able to create a geo fence. I havent taken delivery yet.
only issue was that model showed up as carrera S on app, I called customer service snd they have forwarded it to tier 2.

the porsche connect app I still can’t login to, even though I can login in via website, nothing to do with the above.
Its always been an issue.

Cyberbug 01-19-2019 11:07 AM

I called Porsche and they added the vehicle to my connect account via vin number in a minute. I can now login to Connect app, which just connects me to Car Connect for more details.

Remember Car connect is free for a year with no automatic renewal

Connect Plus is 3 months free, that is the live traffic and google maps or anything the pcm needs internet for, including updates

wes66vette 01-19-2019 11:09 AM

I had the free year, sort of used it...found out that having the ATT service wasn't necessary if I had car connect...I mean really, who needs a hot spot in a 911?

I use the speed and geo fence frequently (when I drop the car off and when I travel)...

I guess it boils down to personal preference, but I like having the location, and fencing options.

YMMV

Randy M 01-19-2019 11:31 AM

I drive a Porsche. Waze shows the cops so that's what I use every time I drive it. Car connect whatever is worthless to me.

anythingbuttime 01-19-2019 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Cyberbug (Post 15577477)
I will have to try connect plus when I get the car. I have been using car connect, I was able to see my car on the sitting at the dealer, I was able to see tire pressures, its got 11miles on it, I was able to see fuel and range. I was able to create a geo fence. I havent taken delivery yet.
only issue was that model showed up as carrera S on app, I called customer service snd they have forwarded it to tier 2.

the porsche connect app I still can’t login to, even though I can login in via website, nothing to do with the above.
Its always been an issue.

You couldn't log in because it requires a pairing code to be entered in the car. Good to know there is a work around available.

6sigma 01-19-2019 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Cyberbug (Post 15577575)
I called Porsche and they added the vehicle to my connect account via vin number in a minute. I can now login to Connect app, which just connects me to Car Connect for more details.

Remember Car connect is free for a year with no automatic renewal

Connect Plus is 3 months free, that is the live traffic and google maps or anything the pcm needs internet for, including updates

Porsche said my 2018 came with 1-year free of Connect Plus. I confirmed via the online portal that 1-year of service is activated. That includes Google Earth, live traffic, online search, live weather, etc. Those are the features I use the most, and would consider paying for when renewal comes up.

Mark993TT 01-19-2019 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by StormRune (Post 15576629)
Yeah, that is an oddity. Has to have been some lawyers' idea.


Originally Posted by anythingbuttime (Post 15576544)
I think it is bizarre that I can lock the car form my phone...but I can't unlock it. I see more need to unlock. Am I missing something?

The feature is intended to be able to lock the car if you left it and forgot to lock it. You are able to lock it not being near the car. Unlocking it when you’re standing next to the car seems a bit pointless.

Read another post of someone who thinks connect is useless because it doesn’t warn for cops / speed traps ...
I guess some are missing the point here. If you are convinced connect is useless maybe this topic is not for you.



Cyberbug 01-19-2019 08:23 PM

Lol...the intend of the post was to help those who are interested in it, yet folks need to put in the effort to post that they don’t care and are not interested.....Noted......LMAO

alex_c 01-19-2019 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Cyberbug (Post 15575364)


car connect is free for a year, you can view and control certain functions via an app. Since its free no harm in trying. For additional cost you can add vehicle tracking and some other functions. You also get climate control. If interested you can look up what you get.
in my MBs, I got 5 years free. The functions I use most is vehicle tracking, in case I want to know where my wife is shopping. Or remote start. Unfortunately remote start is not available in 991.2

connect plus, you get live traffic and google maps plus hot spots. I only care about live traffic and google maps only.



don’t have to :thumbsup:

this was meant to help those who are interested in getting it. Not to start another thread on pros and cons, plenty already on the forum

You also get Online Search with Connect Plus. I use that ALL the time. It is basically google search. Want to go to x place? Just enter the name of the place. Super fast and much easier than searching for an address. Also the real time traffic is a great addition with Connect Plus. Every time I have to drive a longer distance in traffic, just do Online Search for the location and the Real Time Traffic will re-direct you based on, you guessed it, real time traffic! It has saved me from hours in traffic so far.

Another nice feature of the "WiFi hot spot" is that my BlackVue cameras can upload footage to the cloud wirelessly.

anythingbuttime 01-19-2019 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Mark993TT (Post 15578030)




The feature is intended to be able to lock the car if you left it and forgot to lock it. You are able to lock it not being near the car. Unlocking it when you’re standing next to the car seems a bit pointless.

Read another post of someone who thinks connect is useless because it doesn’t warn for cops / speed traps ...
I guess some are missing the point here. If you are convinced connect is useless maybe this topic is not for you.



In regards to locking unlocking...definitely useless. There is more opportunity I would want to lock my wallet keys in the car and just take my phone with me like I can do with every other car I own. Furthermore...remote unlocking is awfully useful when you are on the outside without the keys.

Mark993TT 01-20-2019 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Cyberbug (Post 15578738)
Lol...the intend of the post was to help those who are interested in it, yet folks need to put in the effort to post that they don’t care and are not interested.....Noted......LMAO

+1

Gordon Shumway 01-20-2019 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Cyberbug (Post 15577575)
I called Porsche and they added the vehicle to my connect account via vin number in a minute. I can now login to Connect app, which just connects me to Car Connect for more details.

Remember Car connect is free for a year with no automatic renewal

Connect Plus is 3 months free, that is the live traffic and google maps or anything the pcm needs internet for, including updates

Connect Plus is actually free for a year if you set it up through Porsche, and the embedded SIM, which is pretty simple. The AT&T SIM card is only free for 3 months, but that card is totally unnecessary for Connect Plus services, unless you have some compelling reason to go that route. It is only necessary if you want a wifi hot spot in the car.

My first year is almost up, so I've got notices from Vodaphone about renewing the Car Connect services, but have decided to pass on them, as I can't recall ever actually using any of the services after setting them up on my phone. I suppose one could make a case for the emergency response service, but their pricing seems ridiculous to me. I have renewed the Connect Plus services through Porsche, which I got for $99 for the next year during a Cyber Monday sale. The regular cost is $189/year, which includes the internet connection. I tossed the AT&T Sim card the dealer put in, as I don't need a wifi hotspot.

goldduster 01-20-2019 05:48 PM

I am completely confused over this. When I go to my renewal page they want $299, not $189. I do remember paying the $189 a year ago. All I really want is my cellphone bluetooth, Nav. and the info on the traffic condition of the road. I do have a decent education, but feel pretty stupid attempting to figure this out. It just doesn't seem to make any sense.


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