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Reasonable trade-in value on a 2017 C4S, 13K mi, PTS (Fashion Grey)

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Old 01-16-2019, 04:22 PM
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I'll assume that it's coming up soon, which means selling (trading) a sports car in the NE in the Winter. Not a good time for maximum valuation. I disagree that the dealer will sell it in days, but I personally like the color and wouldn't kick it out of the garage for eating crackers...

Just remember, come trade-in time, that PTS and pretty-much every option on there is worthless. They look at Manheim numbers and give you that. And those are high miles for a 2017 911, so I'd guess you'll get a number in the 90s. I wish you the best, but that's my guesstimate.
Old 01-16-2019, 04:45 PM
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Lovely colour. I almost got Fashion Grey myself but the wait was too long; given the much increased cost of PTS now I’m sure it would add something to the value...
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This looks like a private party sale for sure! I would just advertise on here and 6speed online.
Old 01-16-2019, 05:15 PM
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Dealer trade-in ~100k
Old 01-16-2019, 07:25 PM
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Thanks for all replies.

Totally understand that PTS, PPF etc doesn’t mean anything on a dealer price etc.

I know it’s “high” mileage the car is just too damn practical.
Old 01-16-2019, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nimprojects
Thanks for all replies.

Totally understand that PTS, PPF etc doesn’t mean anything on a dealer price etc.

I know it’s “high” mileage the car is just too damn practical.
I think a desirable PTS color does add value; you’ll be told otherwise but it will be in the title of the dealer’s ad if it isn’t presold.
Also, it’s now $12k on a new order. A full wrap would add value for me for sure.
Back in the day, 10k miles used to be the tipping point for low miles - haven’t paid attention in a while.
Old 01-16-2019, 10:19 PM
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What's the in-service date, for warranty purposes?
Old 01-16-2019, 10:28 PM
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$100k for ACV on trade is more than likely an accurate number . I would try and retail it first before giving it to a dealer. You’d likely get just shy of $115,000 for private sale.
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Originally Posted by CCDD
$100k for ACV on trade is more than likely an accurate number . I would try and retail it first before giving it to a dealer. You’d likely get just shy of $115,000 for private sale.
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This is definitely a special build and will garner a premium to the right buyer. It depends how much your time is worth. You will probably get a trade of 100k +- and if you sold it I would say somewhere between 115 - 118k

Old 01-17-2019, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CCDD
$100k for ACV on trade is more than likely an accurate number . I would try and retail it first before giving it to a dealer. You’d likely get just shy of $115,000 for private sale.
This /\ /\/\ plus the dealer should allow a sell-through on the private sale in order to capture the tax credit..... and a "good" dealer will also wave admin fees on the sell-through.

It's a win-win.
Old 01-17-2019, 04:41 PM
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There are actually dealers that take special cars on consignment, especially for customers that are buying a new one.
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Why not just ask the dealer where you're getting GT3?
Then there's no mystery. Any tax offset in NY?
Old 01-17-2019, 05:47 PM
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NY does have tax offset so $100k trade is closer to $110k private party. Dealers around here know that so they always low ball in my experience.
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What is this "tax credit" and "tax offset" that people are referring to? I'm not familiar with that. Other than sales tax when you purchase, you shouldn't owe any taxes when you sell or trade your car because you're selling it for less than you bought it (almost all the time).
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Originally Posted by nimprojects
.......don't want to get totally screwed when I trade it in
The trade in value of your car to the dealer is the the money he can get for it at auction.

If you have already told the dealer you are going to present him with a trade, it is impossible for anyone to determine whether or not your getting screwed on your trade (indeed, the whole deal) unless you reveal the negotiated price you've agreed to pay for the new car. In math terms: trade money + new car cost < screwed. If your taking on financing costs, add that to the left side of the equation as a third element.

Best way to involve a trade in a deal: (1) From the start, tell the dealer you have no trade. (2) Critical part - negotiate the best new car price you can under no trade condition. When that's done, (3) introduce your trade.

If you have done a good job negotiating on the new car price (10%), you will quickly find out the auction value of your trade. Careful of what you pay for financing costs.

Note: Tax credits have nothing to do with whether or not you get screwed in the deal.


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