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Old 01-09-2019, 01:19 PM
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Default The 991.2 Carrera is the best bang for your buck 911 of all time.

These are sport cars built to live at the track, no? IMO Porsche shot themselves in the foot on this one.

You can forget about the 992, its obesity and its eye gouging price and options.

It wasn't easy but...Since the ECU on the .2 has been cracked and we are in the infancy stages of tuning, the beast has awoken. Say what you want to say about sound and "visceral" this and that. The performance of a 991.2, let alone a tuned 991.2 easily negates that. My 991.2 GTS with exhaust work and stage 2 Cobb will pin your back into the seat in any gear at wide open throttle. In stage 1 form it walked away from a 991.1 TTS. In its current form it repeatedly beat those new 460hp Camaros like it was even moving.

For under $6000 and probably half that if you buy used.. You can outperform GT3's and TTS 911's and save yourself anywhere from $30-$60k.

You have variety.. A myriad of trims, drivetrains and options. AWD, RWD, manual, PDK etc.

I'm amazed at the Jekly n Hyde dual/multi personality this machine has... In sport + it's a weapon. Razor sharp throttle, blistering shifts, and a loud menacing exhaust noise... In normal mode its quiet, smooth, and relaxing. Put it in sport mode to make some fireworks.. The exhaust sounds like shotgun fire and flames shoot out of the tips. A thing of beauty.

If you're looking for a modern 911 which is fast and want to take it up a notch, look no further. There is no better bang for your buck out there if you want a 911.
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Originally Posted by Psorcery View Post
These are sport cars built to live at the track, no? IMO Porsche shot themselves in the foot on this one.

You can forget about the 992, its obesity and its eye gouging price and options.

It wasn't easy but...Since the ECU on the .2 has been cracked and we are in the infancy stages of tuning, the beast has awoken. Say what you want to say about sound and "visceral" this and that. The performance of a 991.2, let alone a tuned 991.2 easily negates that. My 991.2 GTS with exhaust work and stage 2 Cobb will pin your back into the seat in any gear at wide open throttle. In stage 1 form it walked away from a 991.1 TTS. In its current form it repeatedly beat those new 460hp Camaros like it was even moving.

For under $6000 and probably half that if you buy used.. You can outperform GT3's and TTS 911's and save yourself anywhere from $30-$60k.

You have variety.. A myriad of trims, drivetrains and options. AWD, RWD, manual, PDK etc.

I'm amazed at the Jekly n Hyde dual/multi personality this machine has... In sport + it's a weapon. Razor sharp throttle, blistering shifts, and a loud menacing exhaust noise... In normal mode its quiet, smooth, and relaxing. Put it in sport mode to make some fireworks.. The exhaust sounds like shotgun fire and flames shoot out of the tips. A thing of beauty.

If you're looking for a modern 911 which is fast and want to take it up a notch, look no further. There is no better bang for your buck out there if you want a 911.

I totally agree with you! One of the best decisions I have ever made was to purchase a new 991.2 almost 3-years ago. My 911 in stock form so far has been plenty fast enough for me. If I should feel the need for more power there are several good options available. My base car (with a few options that I wanted) in stock form is amazing and easily out-performs any V8 Corvette I have owned. Yet is very comfortable, and so far has been very reliable. Porsche did the 991.2 right. However, I do think that the 992 is a really nice looking car, although the interior I am not sure about, it seems a bit sterile to me. And with a few options, the 992 is going to be crazy expensive.


I love my 2017 Porsche 911 (991.2)
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996 is the best bang for your buck right now...
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^^ you'd love it more if you got rid of the amber markers!
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by garfunkle View Post
996 is the best bang for your buck right now...
I somewhat agree with you, however, I would only look at the Turbo versions of the 996 since they are not subject to the potential IMS issue. The Turbo 996 models are going up in price. So if anyone is thinking about getting one I would not wait too much longer.
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With numbers like this, I am literally and figuratively blown away by my new 991.2 GTS TT with PDK, rear wheel steering, and PDCC.

Car and Driver Instrumentation Testing for the 991.2 911 Carrera GTS PDK

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.2 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 12.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 17.4 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.8 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.5 sec
Standing ╝-mile: 11.3 sec @ 125 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 193 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 142 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.05 g

As documented by Everyday Driver, the 991.2 GTS PDK hits 200 mph.

Great car!
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaws1 View Post
^^ you'd love it more if you got rid of the amber markers!
I like the amber markers and I get to keep $120 in my pocket.
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+1, in fact, my girlfriend thinks I love it so much that I should marry it and have a few Macans. Anyone else have a spouse or girlfriend that has expressed jealousy of the love we have for our vehicles?
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I guess it all depends on how one defines best bang for the buck. I have a 991.2 GTS coming. 7MT and RWD, not PDK. For me, that was the biggest bang for the buck.

Because I couldn't care less about beating anybody in a 0-60 launch (if I did, I would've gotten PDK and AWD). I also don't much care about top end speed as I don't see myself ever hitting that (would've had to do ED for that). My definition of bang for the buck was all about more subjective aspects of the car.

How will it make me feel to look at it in my driveway (I think it's a gorgeous car). How does it make me feel to fire up the engine (I like how it sounds stock). How does it make me feel to drive it quickly on twisty well-paved roads. How much fun is it to rip through exit or entrance ramps? How nimble will it be at speed on an empty highway? How will it perform when pushing the rears, momentarily, beyond their adhesion limits in a corner? These are all the things that I will enjoy almost every day as I live with the car.

A huge part of my choice was about how well it will do as being a daily driver, as I plan to drive the hell out of this car - otherwise I would've gotten a GT3 or 3RS for all the above reasons except that I don't personally view the GT3/RS as the best choice for a daily driver.

Different people have different definitions of best bang. I can perfectly understand yours. I just don't share it, exactly. Which is a great thing about Porsche. They seem to cater to a wide range of desires.
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Originally Posted by V999 View Post
I guess it all depends on how one defines best bang for the buck. I have a 991.2 GTS coming. 7MT and RWD, not PDK. For me, that was the biggest bang for the buck.

Because I couldn't care less about beating anybody in a 0-60 launch (if I did, I would've gotten PDK and AWD). I also don't much care about top end speed as I don't see myself ever hitting that (would've had to do ED for that). My definition of bang for the buck was all about more subjective aspects of the car.

How will it make me feel to look at it in my driveway (I think it's a gorgeous car). How does it make me feel to fire up the engine (I like how it sounds stock). How does it make me feel to drive it quickly on twisty well-paved roads. How much fun is it to rip through exit or entrance ramps? How nimble will it be at speed on an empty highway? How will it perform when pushing the rears, momentarily, beyond their adhesion limits in a corner? These are all the things that I will enjoy almost every day as I live with the car.

A huge part of my choice was about how well it will do as being a daily driver, as I plan to drive the hell out of this car - otherwise I would've gotten a GT3 or 3RS for all the above reasons except that I don't personally view the GT3/RS as the best choice for a daily driver.

Different people have different definitions of best bang. I can perfectly understand yours. I just don't share it, exactly. Which is a great thing about Porsche. They seem to cater to a wide range of desires.
exactly why I bought a manual 991.2 gts
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:42 PM
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+1, in fact, my girlfriend thinks I love it so much that I should marry it and have a few Macans. Anyone else have a spouse or girlfriend that has expressed jealousy of the love we have for our vehicles?
An ex-GF came with me on one of my visits to the Porsche dealership during the early days of my new car shopping. We were wandering around in the showroom while we waited for a SA to be done with another customer. At some point, she was staring at a beautiful Chalk C4S and unhappily mumbled something like "you're going to get a lot of female attention in one of these cars".

I forget exactly what I said to her, something diplomatic I think. But I was thinking that she was being jealous of the wrong thing. I'm not gonna to be falling in love with any woman that gives me attention because of the car I drive. However I'm almost certainly going to fall in love with the car after it arrives from Germany and I collect it from the dealership.

Not sure what all that says about me. But I'm guessing it ain't good.
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Originally Posted by garfunkle View Post
996 is the best bang for your buck right now...
Never was, never will be. For plenty of reasons.

What makes it the best bang for your buck? Lackluster everything? At least down the line the 991.2 Carrera will keep its timeless design, reliability and performance for generations to come. It's going to stay up there with the TT models of the past which are still sought after.

Even the 997( while a nice car and impressive) is such a leap backwards from a 991.

Keyword: Carrera.

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Originally Posted by garfunkle View Post
996 is the best bang for your buck right now...
The only reason to buy a 996 is if you can't afford anything else, and even then I'd just get something else.
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Love the 991.2 but I would argue the 991.1 is even better bang for your buck currently, maybe not in terms of performance but in terms of "specialness". Porsche is using NA motors as the "special" motors going forward. All 911s will be turbocharged except the GT division (barring the GT2RS). The new GT4 clubsport engine is based off of the same 3.8 in the 991.1 S/GTS, and all signs are pointing to the new GT4 to have the same 3.8 engine. Long term I believe the 991.1 is the car collectors will want to have as it has the last NA engine in a Carrera.
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