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Old 01-11-2019, 01:25 AM
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Just want to throw a little love in this thread for the TTS. Insanely fast street car that is very comfortable to DD. No stick, but oh so much torque.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:34 AM
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:21 AM
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I'm in the same boat Woodranch. Very happy with my GTS (and mine is one of the old low torque normally aspirated ones, a '16 model). I am really temped be some of the GT3T currently in the RL for sale section. I am just trying to grasp what I think will be about a $100K price delta to swap into the new model

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Old 01-11-2019, 05:25 PM
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Absolutely love your GTS 96redLT4!
And it has a 5-lug wheels like mine had. My preferred setup.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:46 PM
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2015 GTS here, love the car, plenty of power, great acceleration and comfortable daily driver, I don't care about track which I don't do anyway. I think GTS is the best Daily Driver money can buy when it comes to a Porsche experience.

Never drove GT3, based on what I read, I am going to say is why would I want more power when I cannot use all of what I have now. Stiff is not what I am looking for, I prefer comfort and handling balance.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:00 PM
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Just sold my 2013 C2S and this is the same dilemma I have now. I have my sights on a 991.2 GTS. Will I miss the NA and just get a GT3? This will be a weekend car.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by garfunkle View Post
Ha - so true. Mine included. (Poser). Although I do take it to the mountains for intentional driving to nowhere, my car won't see the track. I just don't enjoy the track (flame away if you like but I'm just being honest about what I like) and love mountain driving and group drives with the top down.

When people talk about a GT3 in the 991 forum, the engine and not gearbox are the main points of discussion.... but such a small part to the equation.

The real magic in the GT3 which [unlike the witchcraft of an engine/exhaust sound] just can't be appreciated on the street and it's the suspension and the way the suspension is put together. if you track a car regularly then you know there are many more consumables and much more significant maintenance than a street car and the GT3 is built for this abuse. The geometry is different, the connectors and bushings are all different, etc. etc. This is why it's the ultimate race on Sunday, drive on Monday 911.
Well until you start tracking your GT3 than realize that you're the poser because the real track guys are hauling and tracking real race cars....
A base Carrera is just as durable as a GT3 for DE track days. Consumables are really no different, cost a little more on a GT3. But its not like other makes where rotors and calipers aren't up to snuff for some weekend lapping or you need larger tires to increase the contact patch unless you buy the top of the line performance model or need to add extra cooling. It's great out of the box.

I like the GT3 Touring. It's great on track, great for a weekend cruise and you don't have that huge wing.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:54 PM
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It was below freezing but dry so I drove my GT3T to work and back today. 60 miles of perfectly fine commuting.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:58 PM
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“Well until you start tracking your GT3 than realize that you're the poser because the real track guys are hauling and tracking real race cars....
A base Carrera is just as durable as a GT3 for DE track days. Consumables are really no different, cost a little more on a GT3. But its not like other makes where rotors and calipers aren't up to snuff for some weekend lapping or you need larger tires to increase the contact patch unless you buy the top of the line performance model or need to add extra cooling. It's great out of the box.”

So true. If you’re not running in the advanced run group with roll protection, HANS device, and 5 point harness, searching for every second, a base Carrera will be all you can handle.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa Fittig View Post
Absolutely love your GTS 96redLT4!
And it has a 5-lug wheels like mine had. My preferred setup.
Thanks Papa. I have really appreciated the 5 lugs more than once over my 3 1/2 yrs of ownership. That is one big thing I don't like about the GT3 is CL wheels. The things I do like are a 500 hp NA motorsports derived engine and a manual tranny for weekend drives and the occasional anticipated track day. Decisions decisions....

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Old 01-11-2019, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rcristobal View Post
Just sold my 2013 C2S and this is the same dilemma I have now. I have my sights on a 991.2 GTS. Will I miss the NA and just get a GT3? This will be a weekend car.
I don't miss the NA one bit when driving my 991.2 GTS. I also have a 991.2 GT3, but the GTS is just as fun. In some ways more fun.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by reacher View Post
I don't miss the NA one bit when driving my 991.2 GTS. I also have a 991.2 GT3, but the GTS is just as fun. In some ways more fun.
Agree. At legal and near legal speeds, the 450 Hp 3.0 TT has a ton of torque, and is really fun to drive. And the suspension is adjustable with the push of a button for crappy pavement.
On smooth pavement at felony speed levels, the GT3 is certainly more fun. And who doesn't love that wing!
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4 View Post
I'm in the same boat Woodranch. Very happy with my GTS (and mine is one of the old low torque normally aspirated ones, a '16 model). I am really temped be some of the GT3T currently in the RL for sale section. I am just trying to grasp what I think will be about a $100K price delta to swap into the new model

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I am in the same boat, love my 16 barely driven GTS but lust over a GT3. The 100K delta has certainly tamed my enthusiasm, as said earlier, the practical difference is minimal at best on the street where I be driving it
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by reacher View Post
Hah, if you have a Raptor for a week you might get hooked. I bought one expecting to use it only now and then, but it became my daily. Seems like every sports car owner has a Raptor these days, lol.
love my raptor. It’s my DD!
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 4pipes View Post
“Well until you start tracking your GT3 than realize that you're the poser because the real track guys are hauling and tracking real race cars....
A base Carrera is just as durable as a GT3 for DE track days. Consumables are really no different, cost a little more on a GT3. But its not like other makes where rotors and calipers aren't up to snuff for some weekend lapping or you need larger tires to increase the contact patch unless you buy the top of the line performance model or need to add extra cooling. It's great out of the box.”

So true. If you’re not running in the advanced run group with roll protection, HANS device, and 5 point harness, searching for every second, a base Carrera will be all you can handle.
About the most succinct truism on RL in years. Having about 50 track days in C2's, I could not agree more.
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