Penn4S

I use a do it yourself coating from Gyeon called Can Coat. Goes on and comes off with a wiping and I can reapply wash new driving season. I use Gyeon Wet Coat after every other wash and my car shines and repels dirt like a superhero. I love this stuff and a $49 can last for several coatings.

Jerry991

All of this stuff has never been proven to me as worth the cost. You need to consider a few things before considering spending the money for ceramic pro. Such as whether you will be using the car as a daily driver, will it be garaged, what type of weather do you have in your area. Think about this: how many 991 Porsches have you seen that the paint looked bad after 4, 5 or 6 years? Have you ever been told by a really good detailer that he cannot get your paint back to looking like new? Sure, you get a clear bra to protect against chips, etc., but do you really think that paint protection does anything better than a good detailing? You are dealing with clear coat finishes that are not that great from the factory so you are only trying to get some luster from the clear coat. Go to a dealer and closely look at a new car on the floor and then look at a really well detailed 5 year old car and see if you can find a difference - I bet it would be insignificant if at all. You can use a very inexpensive detailing spray after washing your car and get all the beading you want if that is what you want.

Bud Taylor

THIS... !

garfunkle

911boy

I agree 100%. No way to tell if its "performing". Not for me.

911boy

.....sort of like waxing every 2-3 months and using reload in between? There sure seem to be varying results here.

SH2

I agree with you 100% Jerry!! If ones finish is looking a bit tired and a DIYr can't manage the job on his/her own, have the vehicle detailed. I'm getting tired of all this "paint correction" & "hydrophoic" BS, all this amounts to is some simple steps with the right products and machine polishing skills to get most vehicles looking like new again.

MoeMistry

Lots of great info here, but almost same amount of "opinions" as well.

First and foremost, nano/ceramic coatings are NOT the answer to poor care. If anyone tells you you don't worry about washing, caring, maintaining, etc., then they're giving you a false hope of what the product limitations are.

Properly done, this assumed installer expertise and true nano coating, you should enjoy an easy and carefree experience for 2-3 years, depending on coating...longer if garage queen or not daily driver.

Lifetime warranties, or any "time" warranty is as good as the paper it's written on...common sense always trumps gimmicks. To my knowledge, there is no tool or test that unequivocally deciphers coating failure. By that, I mean that there's no test that proves product/installer/user failure...so, how can you warranty something you have no way of verifying its failure.

When people call us and ask what our warranty is, we state we have NO warranty...they think we're joking, but we're not.

I know that product we use, CQuartz, is solid. I know our installation is solid. What I don't know is how someone's home care is. All we can do is set clients up with proper products and guide them with techniques that are simple and effective. Someone following that routine, will most likely see excellent ROI. Someone going through car washes at gas station or having a detailer not familiar with nano coatings and applying improper products/technique to coating, then there's no warranty for that.

A LOT of work goes into a proper installation...days, sometimes weeks. So, if you got a same-day service for $500, then you probably are going to get what you paid for.

There is A LOT of science and expertise to a proper correction and coating application. Simply as that.

Can you achieve amazing results without an arm/leg....absolutely.

There are excellent nano spray sealants out there that will give you far superior results than traditional waxes/sealants, at fraction of the time...CarPro Reload comes to mind.

On a new car, wash/ironx/eraser/Reload...results are stunning and will cost you less than $100 and take 2-3 hours tops at your home.

Will it be the same results as a CQuartz Professional or Finest Reserve, no. But better than wax/sealant, yes.

So, I hope this helps understand coatings...they're not bulletproof and they're not snake oil either...well, it depends on the coating

Do your research, talk to those knowledgeable in the industry that will give you honest and unbiased answers.

As with anything, buyer be aware.

911boy

Thanks for that Moe. Good to hear some facts.

MoeMistry

My pleasure...you guys need to trust someone out there that knows a thing or two

LexVan

I've never seen so much misinformation in one thread before. I was just sitting back, waiting for a Pro to step in. Thanks for setting us straight, Moe.

MoeMistry

Like I said...buyer be aware...the coating industry has exponentially increased in the past 2-3 years...we started playing with nano, the real stuff, almost 7-8 years ago and decided to align with CarPro.

Since then, I've seen so many coating come to market by people that don't even make the product or even have the infrastructure to properly sell, and more importantly, educate the end user.

There are several excellent coating manufacturers, and you can tell by the quality and caliber of the installers in their network.

You've got the "mass-market' coating manufacturers, and you've got the "boutique" brands. They each have their + and -...just educate yourself on which one is right for YOU.

As with anything, examine the source and marketing "angle" or "pitch".

There's DIY dent repair kits...DIY paint it yourself kits, DIY youtube on how to invest your money in stock market...list goes on and on. Someone's always trying make a buck...just be honest with yourself...if it's too good to be true, it probably is.

Automotive Elegance

Your ceramic should not have failed after a year. Often the reason ceramic may fail prematurely is what type of maintenance you are doing. Depending on what you wash the car with, you might be rubbing it right off the car, or depending on the products you are using when you clean the car you could be negating the effect of the ceramic. Whoever you had detail the car and apply the PPF and Ceramic should have been able to give you some tips for care after the application. We also use Ceramic Pro and we tell every customer who gets it to buy "Car Pro Reload" which will act as a sacrificial layer for the ceramic to extend the life span of the coating and make sure you don't need to spend a bunch of money at the detail shop every 8 months after the coating goes on. Caring for your car after a ceramic coating shouldn't be any harder or more stressful than it was before the coating.

Thing's can definitely happen, and there is always the chance the product failed (rarely) or the prep work was not done well enough and the application was rushed. When done correctly, a ceramic coating is a great thing to do to care for your car, but when applied wrong, or when the best way to maintain it isn't communicated, the "snake oil" opinion unfortunately starts gaining ground.

Here is the link for the Car Pro Reload:

bwiele

Moe & Automotive Elegance - have you guys tried Bead Maker yet? I'm interested to know your views..

Automotive Elegance

We haven't, we are certified with Ceramic Pro so we keep it consistent. Would love to hear other peoples thoughts though. Could be worth trying!