2019 991.2 future collector car?????
#91
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Thanks PJ
"Snake Eyes" & "Hurricane"..your comments are always spot-on.
Cheers.
"Snake Eyes" & "Hurricane"..your comments are always spot-on.
Cheers.
#93
Lol. I do not. In 911 land, you need some "last of" visceral, emotive and classic element to render future status. It works every time. The 991.2 is replaced by a car that looks a lot like it and doesn't render anything in said 991.2 a "classic" (which is good for owners who are happy that your cars will still be so modern, if that's your speed). The only "last of" element the 991.2 has going for it, is a more traditional, analogue, simplistic interior.
I do, however feel the 991.1 will be a future classic, as it's the last of/most modern/best of the N/A Carrera's, akin to the "993 of water cooled era" of sorts. And it was only produced with an N/A engine for 3 and a half years. Prices of 991.1's strengthened tremendously when the 991.2's came out, actually going up (something I've never seen for a car so new and produced in such volume), and have stayed the same for about 2 years now, many higher than what they were going for in the years before that. I just browsed 991.1 prices for the first time since I bought my car, and noticed prices are nearly identical to where they were over a year ago. What this clearly very hot and continuous market strength signifies is the markets own prediction of how coveted the car will be in the future.
I don't follow 991.2 prices as closely, but do notice many older 991.1's are nearly reaching, or meeting, or even in some examples surpassing newer .2 prices. Which again, to me is the market speaking as to its own prediction of the future.
All in all, no way to know yet, but by the formula I go by, I don't see the same happening for the 991.2. Especially adding in potential turbo complications (any complications work against "future classic" value, which in fact benefits the 997 a lot). But regardless, it's a 911, which means it'll depreciate far less than other cars, always be coveted, thus valuable, and eventually very well can itself go up in value as I'm sure all 911's will, once automation comes into play, etc. Also, it'll always be a very well performing car, which can only help.
I do, however feel the 991.1 will be a future classic, as it's the last of/most modern/best of the N/A Carrera's, akin to the "993 of water cooled era" of sorts. And it was only produced with an N/A engine for 3 and a half years. Prices of 991.1's strengthened tremendously when the 991.2's came out, actually going up (something I've never seen for a car so new and produced in such volume), and have stayed the same for about 2 years now, many higher than what they were going for in the years before that. I just browsed 991.1 prices for the first time since I bought my car, and noticed prices are nearly identical to where they were over a year ago. What this clearly very hot and continuous market strength signifies is the markets own prediction of how coveted the car will be in the future.
I don't follow 991.2 prices as closely, but do notice many older 991.1's are nearly reaching, or meeting, or even in some examples surpassing newer .2 prices. Which again, to me is the market speaking as to its own prediction of the future.
All in all, no way to know yet, but by the formula I go by, I don't see the same happening for the 991.2. Especially adding in potential turbo complications (any complications work against "future classic" value, which in fact benefits the 997 a lot). But regardless, it's a 911, which means it'll depreciate far less than other cars, always be coveted, thus valuable, and eventually very well can itself go up in value as I'm sure all 911's will, once automation comes into play, etc. Also, it'll always be a very well performing car, which can only help.
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#95
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Bubble wrap it for at least 25 years and keep the mileage to garage queen delivery miles less than 20 miles and you're all set to double your money.
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Wondering if with the outgoing 991 and incoming 2020 992 if anyone thinks that the 2019 991.2 will likely hold value better and destined to become a desired collector 911 ? I’m in the market to buy new and debating on 2019 vs. waiting for the 2020 ? Thoughts are appreciated
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If the owner doesn't drive it, what's his pleasure in owning? And over 25 years, on the average the US stock market would return 3.5 times the initial investment. So a Porsche bought and kept like that is a lousy deal.
#100
You guys are all wrong. Wrong wrong wrong
the only cars that will appreciate are the ones painted in Miami Blue. Beauty style and understated elegance. That’s why I’m holding on to my Miami Blue .2 base ;-) at least till I win the PCA Targa GTS fingers crossed.
the only cars that will appreciate are the ones painted in Miami Blue. Beauty style and understated elegance. That’s why I’m holding on to my Miami Blue .2 base ;-) at least till I win the PCA Targa GTS fingers crossed.