Any 991 owners ready to part with $150K for a 992?
#16
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I remember when the 991 was announced it was all about the heavy, bubble ***, not a real 911, not pure,too much of a GT not a sports car, blah blah
it's the same every time we go around.......I will go to the launch at my dealer and drive one
By the time the 992.2 comes around i might be interested.
it's the same every time we go around.......I will go to the launch at my dealer and drive one
By the time the 992.2 comes around i might be interested.
#17
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Thread Starter
Hard to imagine you have to scroll through the infotainment system to turn on PSE! If this is the 992 they better not call the next generation a 993
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#19
Driving 997 I liked 991 a lot, so that transition was no brainer. This time no, thank you. Power increase and wide body is nice, but I do not like how it looks and the interior design is a turn down. I also do not like size-staggered wheels, never did on any cars and not here as well.
As I have a TTS with wide body and all the power I need I do not worry. And even after 992 Turbo comes, if the interior stays as is I am not committed.
As I have a TTS with wide body and all the power I need I do not worry. And even after 992 Turbo comes, if the interior stays as is I am not committed.
Also there is a cast system and rollout process. The new Carrera cannot be faster than the outgoing TURBO in any way. Same reason they neutered the cayman; including the GT4. This methodology protects TURBO sales and loyal customers as well as keeps our residual values as good as they can be for a mass produced car.
#20
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Its too expensive for me to justify as well. Unlike the masses, I dont like the computers and gadgets. It took me 1 month the turn on the radio in my T. Auto start stop, park assist, its all BS. Like some have mentioned above, I can't see spending 140k+ on a properly spec'ed 992 over a 991.2 Turbo or GT3 which will be very close to that price when the 992 actually hits the streets late 2019 and 2020. Having said that, there alot of affluent non enthusiasts that are gonna buy these 992s up like hotcakes. The 992 is actually quite nice; if you can realize you dont actually need the nubbin because the PDK is telepathic enough to measure your testosterone level continuously, and stock the door storage compartment with enough glass cleaning microfibers to last a year you will have a great looking modern, expensive car. In the touring/tech sense it really is a step up. From an enthusiast perspective not so much (weight, emmissions systems, filters etc). But hey, thats why they have 30 different flavors.
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#24
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Looking into the future: I think the first couple of years of the 992 will be an afterthought until Porsche starts putting hybrid tech into the 911 power train. Thats when the 992 will get real interesting.
#25
Since I changed out the Pirelli tires I've been enjoying my car a lot more. If Aston Martin made reliable manual cars I'd maybe switch to one of those in the future. Also want to see about the new Corvette.
#26
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I am not a fan either of the aesthetics or the Cylon type interior but (and I may be wrong) this is the usual reaction to any new iteration of the 911. This just may get the trophy for the highest level of angst.
#27
Burning Brakes
But - look at what you had to spend in the past to get to the next gen power levels, if you could? Now... just throw a tune on the 991.2 and the modest bump in power in the new car doesn't matter and cost a hell of a lot more than any tuning options. Keep in mind the new emissions filter is handicapping the motor a lot more than what Porsche is saying[I believe - my conjecture - I have no facts]. I believe with the new emissions gear that Porsche pushed the power increase pretty far, all things considered.
Also there is a cast system and rollout process. The new Carrera cannot be faster than the outgoing TURBO in any way. Same reason they neutered the cayman; including the GT4. This methodology protects TURBO sales and loyal customers as well as keeps our residual values as good as they can be for a mass produced car.
Also there is a cast system and rollout process. The new Carrera cannot be faster than the outgoing TURBO in any way. Same reason they neutered the cayman; including the GT4. This methodology protects TURBO sales and loyal customers as well as keeps our residual values as good as they can be for a mass produced car.
As for the cast system, It was sad to see what has been done to the great GT4. I am wondering what the future will bring in, if the electrification and hybrid promise for 992 proves to be true (not that I like the hybrids though).
#28
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Did a build for the C4S on the .DE website and after the currency conversion...came out to $205K...Not a crazy build either. Fairly close to what I have today. We know Porsche prices differently by market. Jesh.
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Found the US Configurator. Built this on the US site and its more in-line:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PL3ASJ77
Came in at $170K with my Winters.
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Found the US Configurator. Built this on the US site and its more in-line:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PL3ASJ77
Came in at $170K with my Winters.
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#29
JHC...We haven't even seen any pricing on the 992, and it is already at a $150K premium to a 991 trade, or at least $150K with no trade. I'm sure that is in the marketing strategy.
#30
Instructor
So, using the US configurator for the 911 (2020), I studied all of the options and put together a potential build of a C2S ... my build came in at an MSRP of just under $150K. Only color I could get my head around was the Aventurine Green Metallic - in my mind, for the new body style demands a darker color to disguise the lower front intake area and the oddly shaped rear section - actually not too bad in that particular color. Interior-wise, I would stick with the 14-way seats and there were at least a few leather color choices that seemed nice. And with the exception of the shift **** and floating center, I think that the rest of the interior is generally OK.
Considering the functional enhancements over my new soon-to-be-delivered 991.2, a delta of roughly $6500 doesn't seem all that far out of line ... the most significant functional changes would be the higher performance engine (offsetting the higher weight of the car and obviously a little more), improved handling with new wheels and wet mode, the lane/speed sign assist, the night vision and the improved 360 degree park assist.
What keeps me happy with my choice to resist shifting to 992 essentially centers on these factors: external body style (991.2 simply looks more elegant than 992), the lack of PDK manual shifting using the **** in the 992, and having my new wonder car now instead of nine months from now.
Considering the functional enhancements over my new soon-to-be-delivered 991.2, a delta of roughly $6500 doesn't seem all that far out of line ... the most significant functional changes would be the higher performance engine (offsetting the higher weight of the car and obviously a little more), improved handling with new wheels and wet mode, the lane/speed sign assist, the night vision and the improved 360 degree park assist.
What keeps me happy with my choice to resist shifting to 992 essentially centers on these factors: external body style (991.2 simply looks more elegant than 992), the lack of PDK manual shifting using the **** in the 992, and having my new wonder car now instead of nine months from now.