How many here have placed 2019 orders to avoid the 992?
11-19-2018, 04:02 PM
#16
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I agree with everyone’s observations regarding the 992. I’m only 46 and this is my first Porsche purchase. I decided to buy a new Carrera T now instead of waiting for the 992 because I wanted a narrow-body driver’s car with a manual transmission.
I understand the need to electrify vehicles in the future but I hope that there will always be a more analog version for enthusiasts. Sort of like how vinyl records have come back into fashion with the younger generation. Porsche seems to be the one brand that still caters to that sub-set of buyers (911R, GT3 Touring, Carrera T) and I hope they will continue to be in the future.
I understand the need to electrify vehicles in the future but I hope that there will always be a more analog version for enthusiasts. Sort of like how vinyl records have come back into fashion with the younger generation. Porsche seems to be the one brand that still caters to that sub-set of buyers (911R, GT3 Touring, Carrera T) and I hope they will continue to be in the future.
11-19-2018, 09:01 PM
#17
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I know that the automotive future is heavy with electric propulsion, either as an assist or eventually the only source of propulsion, but the additional complexity of the hybrids puts me off. Once you transition to all-electric, if done right, reliability and longevity should be better.
From what I've read, the new trans is designed to accommodate future hybrid components, such as a motor within the unit. If hybrids become the de facto standard at Porsche, you can probably kiss the manual trans good-bye. Get them while you can.
From what I've read, the new trans is designed to accommodate future hybrid components, such as a motor within the unit. If hybrids become the de facto standard at Porsche, you can probably kiss the manual trans good-bye. Get them while you can.
Pure electric would be a better solution, but in a space constrained, low to the ground car like the 911, a floor pan battery pack would be a challenge. Perhaps a battery pack under the rear seat and in the transmission tunnel with an electric motor behind the battery pack would work. Now what type of sound track would it need to play?
11-19-2018, 09:21 PM
#18
Instructor
The way I figure it right now is we've got a Tesla Model S for her and a 992.1 C2S for me for now ... if Porsche is successful at developing an all electric high-tech model to readily compete with the Tesla Model S, then the Tesla may be replaced by the Porsche equivalent a couple of years down the road. I'm not going to worry about replacing the 991.2 C2S for quite some time 
11-19-2018, 09:46 PM
#19
If anyone could pull off a seamless hybrid, it would be Porsche. However, it would have to be expensive and heavier than either a gas or electric only car. Agreed, manual goes away, and compromises abound with performance, fun and reliability. I've had a Cayenne Hybrid as a loaner, it felt like a science project to me, and nowhere near as lithe as my Cayenne Diesel.
Pure electric would be a better solution, but in a space constrained, low to the ground car like the 911, a floor pan battery pack would be a challenge. Perhaps a battery pack under the rear seat and in the transmission tunnel with an electric motor behind the battery pack would work. Now what type of sound track would it need to play?
Pure electric would be a better solution, but in a space constrained, low to the ground car like the 911, a floor pan battery pack would be a challenge. Perhaps a battery pack under the rear seat and in the transmission tunnel with an electric motor behind the battery pack would work. Now what type of sound track would it need to play?
11-19-2018, 09:54 PM
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Define "best". I agree with others that think the 991.2 is better looking than the 992 and I for one have enough performance so I don't care how much more HP/torque the 992 has...I do not think the 992 Targa GTS will be better than my 991.2 Targa GTS.
11-19-2018, 09:55 PM
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My SA has 2 991.2 allocations for GTS Coupes right now, one a C2 and the other a C4, and if you mention me (Bob Z. from Rennlist) he'l discount it. Javier at Reeves Porsche (jgerena@drivereeves.com) and he can ship it to your nearest dealer. If you really want a GT3 he can get that as well but no discount.
11-19-2018, 10:02 PM
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11-20-2018, 10:58 PM
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11-20-2018, 11:37 PM
#26
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Yup...bought and ordered my T. Love it so far...
11-21-2018, 12:30 AM
#28
I would take a 911.2 over a 992. The smaller dimensions and no frilles of the Carrera T are appealing. I personally don’t care about interiors and tech, so the feeling of missing out would not be an issue for me. I also agree with the sentiments in this thread about power and performance, can’t get much better than what the 991 currently offers. In fact, I really wouldn’t want anymore performance with a street driven car. Less is more - for me in modern sports cars.
Just having a hard time crossing the Porsche (attention) and (price) bridge.....
i kind of have a thing thing for the sleeper sports cars that blend in with the other cars and a 911, is anything, but that. I am sure it is all part of the process of eventually getting a 911....
Just having a hard time crossing the Porsche (attention) and (price) bridge.....
i kind of have a thing thing for the sleeper sports cars that blend in with the other cars and a 911, is anything, but that. I am sure it is all part of the process of eventually getting a 911....
11-21-2018, 01:27 AM
#29
As for the "trade" question, I would recommend wait. Not only will you be IMO spending more on a technical downgrade (Turbo to GTS), but once the 992 comes out, who knows how you'll feel, and it's literally being revealed in days. I would say put some cream on that itch for now and just be certain.