All good! To each their own. I love the loud and intrusive sound, haha. I wish it were even more. I appreciate the effortless torque of the .2, I really do. I just happen to have a different impression where I find the lesser torque/on-cam revier “ascending pull” more rewording and invigorating. I feel like allll cars these days have that same “down low” boosted feeling, therefore the more “classical” N/A pull feels more exotic and “special” to me. But I can understand how less down low can feel more strenuous to some. I just live for that 4K RPM rush, necessity to really sing for its pull, and accompanying sound. It’s my definition of a “911 experience.” It brings me a certain connection to the car. To me it gets boring to go fast without the engine really tickling your senses by notifying you. If I can go 15 MPH and feel invigorated, sign me up (go kart? Lol).

I think both cars are masterpieces. What Porsche did with a 3.0 turbo is amazing. And what they did with street car N/A flat six engine is also remarkable. 3.5 0-60 out of a naturally aspirated non-race spec 6 (what one mag got out of a 2012.5 S) is pretty astonishing.

And considering how tribalist we get toward these cars, I appreciate your candor in acknowledging the resale factor (seems many refuse to see any merit to the “enemy model,” even if said merit is cold, hard figures). It is pretty nuts to see some .1 prices reaching .2 prices indeed. I think the resale market is really signifying that the 997.2 and 991.1’s will be sort of 993-esque in water cooled N/A terms. Especially with the 992 being completely digital inside. When I looked at 991.1 prices last year (when I bought mine), I was shocked to see them not any lower than they were 2-3 years before that, and actually HIGHER than they were the year prior. Then when I looked at prices recently, it’s like they have barely if even depreciated since last year. As a .1 enthusiast, it’s a great testament. As a 911 owner, good resale and higher values on any model, really benefit us all in terms of keeping that 911 cachet at unreachably high levels.

Well said.

Well said. Turning 350 HP out of an N/A 6 and 400-420 HP out of a slightly larger N/A 6, with them NOT being fussy race spec engines, that can likely go hundreds of thousands of miles, is remarkable indeed. They only make 20 HP less than their respective counterparts, with no power adders. It’s a remarkable achievement. The 991.1’s are in the highest echolon of N/A cars performance. There aren’t many N/A cars in the world that will turn an 11 second 1/4, 3.5 0-60, and go around a track that fast. And certainly none with the full package, non-scarcity, and relative value of the 911.

I notice the lag too. I also will say that those who want to make their GTS’s more powerful, more power to you but seems nuts. Because the .2 GTS is already so powerful, I found it nearly impossible to not want to fish the tail out and roast the tires at every slight steering angle. I already would burn through tires constantly. More power and I feel the chassis would start to feel challenged.

On a percentage (from brand new) scale, actually the .1 base is doing as well, if not better. There are .1 S’s selling for $10-$15K more now, that were almost $30K more in MSRP. Both are doing very well in resale since the 2017 came out. They truly haven’t really depreciated on a meaningful scale in years.

Power has never been the determining factor for 911 resale. And “the quieter version” has always been a recipe for a less revered 911 (or sports car in general). As these cars age, as always, it’ll be more “classic” and communicative elements that determine desirability. The .2 won’t be the exception, and I can say that as confidently as the market has already spoken on said .1. The 997.2 will also be highly valued. As it too hasn’t gone down since the .2 came out.

.1 sold more in the U.S as well, especially now that we’ve seen figures revealed that the GT3 has been OUTSELLING the entire line of Carreras in 2018 and the latter half of 2017. A GT model has never outsdold its Carrera counterpart for a full year until now. Which means even in the .2 age, an N/A 911 is still selling the most. Simply yet another example of the market already signaling to you where it will go.

When it comes to 911’s, “last of” of something that is considered a purist hallmark (air cooled, N/A, manual, one day steering wheel) is equal to gold. The only option for N/A now is the GT cars. And they don’t go down in price at all, due to being N/A.

I’d bet on a .1 selling for considerably more than an equal .2 once they’re all out of warranty, as much as I’d bet a .2 beating a .1 in a drag race.

BTW, I’m NOT suggesting the .2 will be “in the tank” in resale. It’ll do as well as 911’s always do. But the .1 just gets “lucky” by having a special *asterisk placed next to it, which always bodes well for 911’s.

Wishful thinking imho.

If only this was true when my friend traded in his 991.1 C2S for a (used) 991.2 C2S last month.
Now I understand that he should have been in the US instead of Europe.

Porsche has produced way to much 996, 997 and 991 for them to become collectors items or appreciate in value.
Except maybe for a very small amount of special limited cars.

I am not sure I will ever regret moving up to a 2018 because my previous 2016 might be worth a few more dollars in a few years. I really don’t think people purchase a car for that reason. Who knows what or where we will be in 5 years. Living in the future is not for me. I like to live in the present and enjoy what I have now! This topic has snow balled. I love my .2 and maybe the exhaust is not as loud, but I am also 57 and don’t hear as well!