If you had $100k: used 991.2 C2S or 997.2 TurboS?
10-28-2018, 02:01 AM
#1
If you had $100k: used 991.2 C2S or 997.2 TurboS?
I am theorizing here: I now see the used 991.2 C2S prices creeping into the high 90's, which is typically where a nice 997.2 Turbo S sits.
Given that one has 420hp and one 530HP, but that they are very different cars, which would you choose, and why?
Having never driven either car, I would be curious about:
-performance, power delivery, and handling
-reliability
-cost to own (depreciation+maintenance)
-presence (to a Porsche enthusiast/to a non-Porsche enthusiast)
By all accounts, the 991.2 C2S is VERY fast, almost as fast as the Turbo S. I don't really understand how that can be the case, considering the 25%+ increase in power and only 10% difference in weight. The 997 platform (which I am very familiar with) handles differently (some would say sloppily) compared to the more buttoned-down 991 (one only had to watch the 997 cup cars on track with the 991.2 cup and RSR cars at Rennsport through Corkscrew to see how much tighter the newer platforms are). But, I am not sure how different it is on a Carrera vs a Turbo. Like I said; I have never driven either.
Those of you who are cross-shopping these: what have you found? It is crazy to think that a $130k car could have the same performance as a $180k car 5 years prior. That fact probably means the Turbo will depreciate less, but also perhaps that people won't covet the Turbos now that turbos are available at cheaper price points (and similar in performance).
Given that one has 420hp and one 530HP, but that they are very different cars, which would you choose, and why?
Having never driven either car, I would be curious about:
-performance, power delivery, and handling
-reliability
-cost to own (depreciation+maintenance)
-presence (to a Porsche enthusiast/to a non-Porsche enthusiast)
By all accounts, the 991.2 C2S is VERY fast, almost as fast as the Turbo S. I don't really understand how that can be the case, considering the 25%+ increase in power and only 10% difference in weight. The 997 platform (which I am very familiar with) handles differently (some would say sloppily) compared to the more buttoned-down 991 (one only had to watch the 997 cup cars on track with the 991.2 cup and RSR cars at Rennsport through Corkscrew to see how much tighter the newer platforms are). But, I am not sure how different it is on a Carrera vs a Turbo. Like I said; I have never driven either.
Those of you who are cross-shopping these: what have you found? It is crazy to think that a $130k car could have the same performance as a $180k car 5 years prior. That fact probably means the Turbo will depreciate less, but also perhaps that people won't covet the Turbos now that turbos are available at cheaper price points (and similar in performance).
10-28-2018, 02:57 AM
#2
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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I don’t think either will hold value particularly well. A 997.1 6MT turbo (09 cab, low miles, green exterior, natural brown interior, sport seats please) would be my $100k water cooled car.
10-28-2018, 03:57 AM
#3
Burning Brakes
I’d hazard a guess that if you managed to drive both cars you would intuitively know which one was a good fit for you. Just a thought
There is a RLer that got a 2011 turbo s from carmax for 83k usd a few months ago. It was speed yellow. In Texas. From what I can recall anyways. Great deal
Glwys
There is a RLer that got a 2011 turbo s from carmax for 83k usd a few months ago. It was speed yellow. In Texas. From what I can recall anyways. Great deal
Glwys
Last edited by I am the Walrus; 10-28-2018 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Carmax not carfax
10-28-2018, 12:55 PM
#4
I’d hazard a guess that if you managed to drive both cars you would intuitively know which one was a good fit for you. Just a thought
There is a RLer that got a 2011 turbo s from carfax for 83k usd a few months ago. It was speed yellow. In Texas. From what I can recall anyways. Great deal
Glwys
There is a RLer that got a 2011 turbo s from carfax for 83k usd a few months ago. It was speed yellow. In Texas. From what I can recall anyways. Great deal
Glwys
10-28-2018, 03:01 PM
#7
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10-28-2018, 03:27 PM
#8
Race Car
A lightly used 991.2S or a nine year old car? I would get the 991.2S.
(BTW I was in a similar boat looking at used 997 Turbos years ago and made the same call - I wound up with a 2 year old 7,200 mile C2S and was very happy with it. No regrets.)
(BTW I was in a similar boat looking at used 997 Turbos years ago and made the same call - I wound up with a 2 year old 7,200 mile C2S and was very happy with it. No regrets.)
10-28-2018, 03:31 PM
#9
Rennlist Member
If those were the ONLY 2, the 991.2 C2S is a great machine and likely has a CPO warrenty option. Both are great..can't really go wrong. As my first Porsche I'd just lean more to the newer C2S, and if so inclined build my garage from there.
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BUT...IMHO, you may be missing out on a unique opportunity. You can still get a 991.1 with a CPO. The tech is virtually identical to the 991.2s just with a normally asperated power plant. Look around the snow belt states for something that wasn't used in the winter, which will help keep the miles down. A GTS would be a really nice find.
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BUT...IMHO, you may be missing out on a unique opportunity. You can still get a 991.1 with a CPO. The tech is virtually identical to the 991.2s just with a normally asperated power plant. Look around the snow belt states for something that wasn't used in the winter, which will help keep the miles down. A GTS would be a really nice find.
10-28-2018, 03:41 PM
#10
991.2 If u want manual imho
10-28-2018, 05:53 PM
#13
Instructor
Ummmm, why not just buy a new Carrera T? That said, the buyer profile for a stripped T (which is what would be needed to hit ~$100k) tends to be substantively different from that of a 997 turboS ..
10-28-2018, 09:47 PM
#14
I ended up with a 2017 C2S with 825miles on the clock. One of my colleagues was recommending a 2015 Turbo or Turbo S.
My inital dilemma was T vs. S. I ended up test driving the base, T and and S ( though it was a NA C2S). Never test drove a TT or TTS.
I ended up going for the huge markdown on a CPO C2S and I have no regrets. I don’t know what and even if I’m missing something from the TT or TTS.
I would recommend test drive whatever is in your budget range and what you can live and take your time. I found several cars out of state that were what I was looking for, but ended up buying local because I ended with a great deal.
My inital dilemma was T vs. S. I ended up test driving the base, T and and S ( though it was a NA C2S). Never test drove a TT or TTS.
I ended up going for the huge markdown on a CPO C2S and I have no regrets. I don’t know what and even if I’m missing something from the TT or TTS.
I would recommend test drive whatever is in your budget range and what you can live and take your time. I found several cars out of state that were what I was looking for, but ended up buying local because I ended with a great deal.
10-29-2018, 02:46 PM
#15
Three Wheelin'
I am theorizing here: I now see the used 991.2 C2S prices creeping into the high 90's, which is typically where a nice 997.2 Turbo S sits.
Given that one has 420hp and one 530HP, but that they are very different cars, which would you choose, and why?
Having never driven either car, I would be curious about:
-performance, power delivery, and handling
-reliability
-cost to own (depreciation+maintenance)
-presence (to a Porsche enthusiast/to a non-Porsche enthusiast)
By all accounts, the 991.2 C2S is VERY fast, almost as fast as the Turbo S. I don't really understand how that can be the case, considering the 25%+ increase in power and only 10% difference in weight. The 997 platform (which I am very familiar with) handles differently (some would say sloppily) compared to the more buttoned-down 991 (one only had to watch the 997 cup cars on track with the 991.2 cup and RSR cars at Rennsport through Corkscrew to see how much tighter the newer platforms are). But, I am not sure how different it is on a Carrera vs a Turbo. Like I said; I have never driven either.
Those of you who are cross-shopping these: what have you found? It is crazy to think that a $130k car could have the same performance as a $180k car 5 years prior. That fact probably means the Turbo will depreciate less, but also perhaps that people won't covet the Turbos now that turbos are available at cheaper price points (and similar in performance).
Given that one has 420hp and one 530HP, but that they are very different cars, which would you choose, and why?
Having never driven either car, I would be curious about:
-performance, power delivery, and handling
-reliability
-cost to own (depreciation+maintenance)
-presence (to a Porsche enthusiast/to a non-Porsche enthusiast)
By all accounts, the 991.2 C2S is VERY fast, almost as fast as the Turbo S. I don't really understand how that can be the case, considering the 25%+ increase in power and only 10% difference in weight. The 997 platform (which I am very familiar with) handles differently (some would say sloppily) compared to the more buttoned-down 991 (one only had to watch the 997 cup cars on track with the 991.2 cup and RSR cars at Rennsport through Corkscrew to see how much tighter the newer platforms are). But, I am not sure how different it is on a Carrera vs a Turbo. Like I said; I have never driven either.
Those of you who are cross-shopping these: what have you found? It is crazy to think that a $130k car could have the same performance as a $180k car 5 years prior. That fact probably means the Turbo will depreciate less, but also perhaps that people won't covet the Turbos now that turbos are available at cheaper price points (and similar in performance).