Carrera T vs Carrera S
10-15-2018, 06:18 PM
#61
Same ratio as an S.
991.2
Ratio - Manual / PDK
1st - 3.91 / 3.91
2nd - 2.29 / 2.29
3rd - 1.58 / 1.58
4th - 1.18 / 1.18
5th - 0.94 / 0.94
6th - 0.79 / 0.79
7th - 0.62 / 0.62
Reverse - 3.55 / 3.55
Final Drive (Base) - 3.44:1
Final Drive (T, S, GTS) - 3.59:1
So not really much shorter.1st is 43mph v 45, 2nd gear is 74mph rather than 77, 3rd is 107mph v 112
991.2
Ratio - Manual / PDK
1st - 3.91 / 3.91
2nd - 2.29 / 2.29
3rd - 1.58 / 1.58
4th - 1.18 / 1.18
5th - 0.94 / 0.94
6th - 0.79 / 0.79
7th - 0.62 / 0.62
Reverse - 3.55 / 3.55
Final Drive (Base) - 3.44:1
Final Drive (T, S, GTS) - 3.59:1
So not really much shorter.1st is 43mph v 45, 2nd gear is 74mph rather than 77, 3rd is 107mph v 112
10-15-2018, 06:51 PM
#62
I agree. To get the benefits of the T you definitely have to spec it accordingly. Porsche as with all there cars gives you the options to go crazy and load it down or option it more sporty. My intent with my T is to lighten it up even more. A good choice with aftermarket exhaust can shed 25 to 30 pounds for example. There are some other areas where weight can be shed as well. Next I will focus on optimizing temperature control. should make the turbos more efficient. I think I am gonna hold off on the Cobb tune until they figure out how to do it with out having to pull and mail in the ECU.
10-15-2018, 07:29 PM
#63
Rennlist Member
I did say go with the GTS for that kind of money...but the wait will be much longer......
i understand why some prefers the T vs the S or the GTS......but for me, I did go with the GTS
i understand why some prefers the T vs the S or the GTS......but for me, I did go with the GTS
10-16-2018, 03:59 AM
#64
To me unless you are ordering perfect spec in T the concept of the model is degraded. Perfect T spec to me is following: 7 speed manual with LSD, buckets with rear seat delete, PCCB's, rear wheel steer, fire extinguisher. Rest of the car bare bones with no other options. .
Agreed, that's exactly how I ordered mine
Tass
10-16-2018, 09:19 AM
#65
Meh, LWB's are for the GT3 and above cars. The T is meant to be more approachable, possibly a DD car and not focused as a model for the track. Most who order the car with LWB's will not drive the car as much as they otherwise would have with 4 or 18 ways. PCCB's are also overkill for the intent of the T.
10-16-2018, 10:49 AM
#66
Race Director
I love how the T just drives everyone crazy. It’s as though everyone just busts out their spreadsheets and SCCA licenses and suddenly they become finance and performance experts when the T is the topic.
1% of drivers can actually handle more horsepower than the T has. FWIW, i agree with the OP.
1% of drivers can actually handle more horsepower than the T has. FWIW, i agree with the OP.
10-16-2018, 12:38 PM
#67
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
And 1% of drivers can feel the weight reduction of a T. Most won't even spec LWBs. It drives everyone crazy because people are playing it up like its some return to small lightweight drivers cars, when its nothing of the sort.
But it definitely has a different vibe than a Base Carrera. I don't know if it's the sound deadening, the chassis and steering tuning or what, but it feels more light and lively compared to the base coupes I have driven.
10-16-2018, 01:15 PM
#68
Rennlist Member
I agree. To get the benefits of the T you definitely have to spec it accordingly. Porsche as with all there cars gives you the options to go crazy and load it down or option it more sporty. My intent with my T is to lighten it up even more. A good choice with aftermarket exhaust can shed 25 to 30 pounds for example. There are some other areas where weight can be shed as well. Next I will focus on optimizing temperature control. should make the turbos more efficient. I think I am gonna hold off on the Cobb tune until they figure out how to do it with out having to pull and mail in the ECU.
Alternatively, get a GTS, S with X51, or S, and you will have a car that is faster and can turn faster laps than the T.
JMHO. Different strokes for different folks!
Last edited by PCA1983; 09-10-2019 at 11:43 PM.
10-16-2018, 01:29 PM
#69
Burning Brakes
Same ratio as an S.
991.2
Ratio - Manual / PDK
1st - 3.91 / 3.91
2nd - 2.29 / 2.29
3rd - 1.58 / 1.58
4th - 1.18 / 1.18
5th - 0.94 / 0.94
6th - 0.79 / 0.79
7th - 0.62 / 0.62
Reverse - 3.55 / 3.55
Final Drive (Base) - 3.44:1
Final Drive (T, S, GTS) - 3.59:1
So not really much shorter.1st is 43mph v 45, 2nd gear is 74mph rather than 77, 3rd is 107mph v 112
991.2
Ratio - Manual / PDK
1st - 3.91 / 3.91
2nd - 2.29 / 2.29
3rd - 1.58 / 1.58
4th - 1.18 / 1.18
5th - 0.94 / 0.94
6th - 0.79 / 0.79
7th - 0.62 / 0.62
Reverse - 3.55 / 3.55
Final Drive (Base) - 3.44:1
Final Drive (T, S, GTS) - 3.59:1
So not really much shorter.1st is 43mph v 45, 2nd gear is 74mph rather than 77, 3rd is 107mph v 112
10-16-2018, 01:31 PM
#71
Burning Brakes
Meh, LWB's are for the GT3 and above cars. The T is meant to be more approachable, possibly a DD car and not focused as a model for the track. Most who order the car with LWB's will not drive the car as much as they otherwise would have with 4 or 18 ways. PCCB's are also overkill for the intent of the T.
10-16-2018, 02:09 PM
#73
Three Wheelin'
I agree it is not lightweight, but it is lighter if specified as a T should be, ie no Rear axle steering, not front axle lift, LWB seats which also removes rear seats, and keep the rear gorilla glass. The seats alone must save 40lb each. Some will enjoy and find that RAS is a must but electric motor and geometry adds weight to the rear which is already heavy. Remove RAS and you also remove unsprung weight from rear suspension.
10-16-2018, 02:21 PM
#74
Three Wheelin'
I can verify, if you order car with LWB, which deletes rear seats you CAN"T add seats later. The car configured with LWB is missing the part circled in blue in attached diagram. This part becomes same part as a GT3 panel.
10-16-2018, 03:15 PM
#75
Three Wheelin'
Some more ideas: get lightweight carpet, remove back seats, get a lithium battery, pull the radio, get lighter 19" wheels, get aluminum hub rotors if steel brakes, remove AC, put in lightweight windows and carbon fiber hood, add lightweight headers and catless cats, remove sun visors, and never fill past half a tank of gas. Alao, many drivers can lose some weight.
Alternatively, get a GTS, S with X51, or S, and you will have a car that is faster and can turn faster laps than the T.
JMHO. Different strokes for different folks!
Alternatively, get a GTS, S with X51, or S, and you will have a car that is faster and can turn faster laps than the T.
JMHO. Different strokes for different folks!