STG

There will be a 992 Carrera T .... gear up.

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Are you basing that off of the R&T article from Rennsport Reunion, or do you have other info?

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Wing Commander

Robenjake

Agree that these cars will not be collectable and will continue to depreciate. I agree you should enjoy them. However everyone's financial situation is different. Porsche is a very expensive car to buy and to maintain for the majority of the world. A first world problem. At some point when the market shifts Porsche will have to rethink their pricing model or will ultimately sell less cars to a smaller audience. On a lighter note, I went to PEC in Atlanta. A great time. I would recommend it for those who have not done it. A weekend getaway.

GT3RS-Fan1

Fully agree. It is NOT a collectible.

Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1

rockrdude

I hope it depreciates so I can pick up one eventually as a track car 😊

Wing Commander

Having modded mine and clocked up over 20,600 miles in 17 months, mine is definitely depreciating!

But that’s what nearly all cars do! It’s only money! And in terms of smiles per mile, I’m very happy!

snake eyes

The hate flows storng through you skywalker...

do we forget about the 996?


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snake eyes

Not a very good track car

The S is a much better track car with "larger brake disc - larger 6 piston calipers, and cooling ducts."

The T is a good drivers car...


And the only 911 Models that hold their value began with the words GT people.... duh!

K-A

Or in the modern era "N/A."

Going on 3 years now, 991.1 and 997.2 prices haven't moved down much at all. Incredible. They depreciated a decent amount up until 2017, and then were "saved" by the turbo Carreras. .1 Prices today are barely if any down from when I was shopping in 2016. In fact, in 2017 prices on 991.1's went UP from the year prior, once .2's were launched. Never seen that before on a car that sells in such volume and that's so new.

I think future 911's and 2 door Porsche's in general will fare very well in the resale market, even if they're not GT cars. How "raw" relative to newer 911's they are will have a large determining factor there. The 992 Carrera T, if it gets the new 4.0 N/A from the GT4 will also be destined for the resale kingdom, especially considering how sedan-like quiet and smooth the 9A2 992 is reported as being, but it'll likely have massive markups to compensate.

Nathing32

I have a T and it has brake cooling ducts and it's a phenomenal track car. Maybe if I owned a GT2, 3 or 4 I wouldn't think so but coming from most anything else in this price range it's a blast on the track. I did a track day this past Thursday and I had no trouble keeping up with a group of 991.1 GT3 guys. I followed one of them for 5 or 6 laps at one point. He pulled away from my at the start of the straights but I caught up with him in the turns each time. He should have let me pass him but I think the, "no way is this T going to pass me" ego set in. He pulled off the track before the end of the session and I proceeded to set my two best lap times of the day in the final laps. Behind him I average 2 seconds slower. My point is that it's a plenty capable track car out of the box - especially if you know what you're doing.

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More info on an NA engine (or lack thereof) etc. for the 992 Carrera...

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...et-gt4-engine/

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Wing Commander

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

K-A

What a f’ing travesty. Porsche works super annoyingly these days when it comes to engines outside of the GT cars, imo.

A 4.0 N/A Carrera would be sold out instantly. No cars sitting on lots like the current T had been so widely reported. Markups would be considerable, etc. People would fall over themselves to get one for the emotive connection alone, rest assured. Doesn’t matter how it stacks up in performance times. But bean counter homogenization rules above all. These companies certainly used to have a lot more fun, and experiment more.

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^^^ Well, sure. Your opinion on NA vs Turbo. "It is known, Khaleesi..."

Would I love an NA lump in my car that can do the same things my little engine that could does? Sure, but would I want to pay twice the price? Nope. And given what those that can have turned the NA Porsche market into, given their ability to benefit at the cost, literally, to the rest of us, I'm actually glad not to be taking part in that game. I've played other games in my life, that matter much, much more. I want no part of it in a hobby.

In my, and many others, opinion, widely reported (here, which I guess counts), there are a lot of T's that DESERVE to sit on lots, based on the way the owners of those lots decided to spec them. Tweaking your argument slightly, I'll go out on a limb and say, had those same cars been spec'd differently (some would say, correctly), they'd have flown out of dealers. All the more so, once some folks actually opened themselves up to the goodness and accepted the car for what it is, adding it to their stable or trading in much more expensive variants for it, also widely reported here in RL...

I know my own car would have, under my very own butt, flown out of a dealer had I walked in and saw it and I wouldn't have had to wait the months I did for it to be created and shipped. I know I'm not alone in that. These opinions are valid too, right? Just like yours...

What I can't get behind are all the folks that want the car to fail, or continually point out it will tank, or that it's not this or that, or 2,000 WW isn't that big a deal or the "R" word doesn't really apply in this case because, after all, it's just marketing hype. But that's competition, the internet, and schadenfreude all wrapped up in a nice, little bow, isn't it.

Ultimately, this thread started and should end with "We'll see..." And I will, through the steadily chipping windscreen and light weight glass out back. As it should be...

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