Did anyone take delivery with alignment off??
#16
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My car seems like its alignment is spot on. After 13k+ miles the front and rear tires have even wear (5/32 front, 3/32 rear) across the tread. The car doesn't drift or pull in either direction.
I had a race shop align and corner balance my '89 Carrera and it felt amazing--like the center-of-gravity had shifted downward. When this car needs an alignment, I'm going to run it out to them rather than the dealer.
I had a race shop align and corner balance my '89 Carrera and it felt amazing--like the center-of-gravity had shifted downward. When this car needs an alignment, I'm going to run it out to them rather than the dealer.
#17
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In one of the menus you can see the degree your steering wheel is turned, try going to this menu, get it on -0- and then see if he car pulls in any direction.
#18
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Followup.
Took my car to Fischer Motors in Barrington. Rick Fischer is the man, btw. Highly recommend them. My car was delivered misaligned... Front was off (L camber -0.7, toe 8.4, R camber -1, toe 8.1). Rears were basically straight (L -1.8, 0.14 and R -1.9, 0.18). I asked him to match the left wheel camber to -1(I wanted it more on the aggressive side) now the steering wheel is dead nutz straight. Baybeh!! Holy crap I should've done this earlier. I don't have to fight the car any more.
Also, looks like the T comes from the factory with aggressive alignment (everything is either at max camber or even slightly more negative than the max "spec range" from the factory). This might be one of the tricks Porsche uses to give the carrera some extra driving feel. They probably forgot to adjust my left wheel or left it that way to adjust for road crown, except in the US the way this is set up its the opposite..
Took my car to Fischer Motors in Barrington. Rick Fischer is the man, btw. Highly recommend them. My car was delivered misaligned... Front was off (L camber -0.7, toe 8.4, R camber -1, toe 8.1). Rears were basically straight (L -1.8, 0.14 and R -1.9, 0.18). I asked him to match the left wheel camber to -1(I wanted it more on the aggressive side) now the steering wheel is dead nutz straight. Baybeh!! Holy crap I should've done this earlier. I don't have to fight the car any more.
Also, looks like the T comes from the factory with aggressive alignment (everything is either at max camber or even slightly more negative than the max "spec range" from the factory). This might be one of the tricks Porsche uses to give the carrera some extra driving feel. They probably forgot to adjust my left wheel or left it that way to adjust for road crown, except in the US the way this is set up its the opposite..
#19
I was at the dealership yesterday and saw a brand new 911 with the alignment gear on it. Cool facility you can see the entire workshop from the waiting area. I am not sure if that is part of the delivery checklist or what. Still had sales sticker on the car.
#20
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Its probably my fault because i wanted the car as soon as it passed inspection and was programmed out of limp mode. Didnt even let them wash it. 8pm before 4th of july weekend. If i got it without the alignment check i have no regrets because i wouldve gone nuts with the car on the lot for 5 days with the dealership closed. It was like 100 degrees that entire weekend and i think it hailed that sunday. Wouldve gone completely bananas....
#21
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Mine too was delivered very slightly out of alignment (not quite as bad as yours) and dealer corrected. I think they told me there is a different alignment spec for the T with RAS. Curious to know if you ended up paying more due to RAS.
cheers!
cheers!
#22
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It takes an extra hour for rear axle alignment with RAS. Thankfully the rear was dead on. Only my front left was off and that was standard labor even with FAL..
and as you can see from the numbers above the T has a pretty aggressive camber. Almost -2 in the rear
and as you can see from the numbers above the T has a pretty aggressive camber. Almost -2 in the rear
#23
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My steering wheel is centered - on a perfect road. I find I need to apply slight CW or CCW force on the wheel to keep the car in lane depending on the road. The roads here typically have a slight gradient that isn't always what you'd expect for the left or right lane - plus the use of studded tires carves ruts into the lanes. My C4S (20"/SPASM/RAS) is far more sensitive to this than any other car I drive on the exact same roads. This spring, when I swapped out tires/wheels to run brand new summer rubber, I had the alignment performed by the dealer (they did make an adjustment) but the car feels exactly the same on the same roads.
#24
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I have never owned or driven a Porsche with a perfectly centered steering wheel. It’s ridiculous. My last 997 was the worst and I spent considerable time aligning the car to no avail.
I’ve since gotten over it and no longer pay attention to the steering wheel as it will drive me crazy. Porsche is the only manufacturer where I’ve experienced this level of sloppiness.
I’ve since gotten over it and no longer pay attention to the steering wheel as it will drive me crazy. Porsche is the only manufacturer where I’ve experienced this level of sloppiness.
#26
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I have never owned or driven a Porsche with a perfectly centered steering wheel. It’s ridiculous. My last 997 was the worst and I spent considerable time aligning the car to no avail.
I’ve since gotten over it and no longer pay attention to the steering wheel as it will drive me crazy. Porsche is the only manufacturer where I’ve experienced this level of sloppiness.
I’ve since gotten over it and no longer pay attention to the steering wheel as it will drive me crazy. Porsche is the only manufacturer where I’ve experienced this level of sloppiness.
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Originally Posted by Rennolazine
Followup.
Took my car to Fischer Motors in Barrington. Rick Fischer is the man, btw. Highly recommend them. My car was delivered misaligned... Front was off (L camber -0.7, toe 8.4, R camber -1, toe 8.1). Rears were basically straight (L -1.8, 0.14 and R -1.9, 0.18). I asked him to match the left wheel camber to -1(I wanted it more on the aggressive side) now the steering wheel is dead nutz straight. Baybeh!! Holy crap I should've done this earlier. I don't have to fight the car any more.
Also, looks like the T comes from the factory with aggressive alignment (everything is either at max camber or even slightly more negative than the max "spec range" from the factory). This might be one of the tricks Porsche uses to give the carrera some extra driving feel. They probably forgot to adjust my left wheel or left it that way to adjust for road crown, except in the US the way this is set up its the opposite..
Took my car to Fischer Motors in Barrington. Rick Fischer is the man, btw. Highly recommend them. My car was delivered misaligned... Front was off (L camber -0.7, toe 8.4, R camber -1, toe 8.1). Rears were basically straight (L -1.8, 0.14 and R -1.9, 0.18). I asked him to match the left wheel camber to -1(I wanted it more on the aggressive side) now the steering wheel is dead nutz straight. Baybeh!! Holy crap I should've done this earlier. I don't have to fight the car any more.
Also, looks like the T comes from the factory with aggressive alignment (everything is either at max camber or even slightly more negative than the max "spec range" from the factory). This might be one of the tricks Porsche uses to give the carrera some extra driving feel. They probably forgot to adjust my left wheel or left it that way to adjust for road crown, except in the US the way this is set up its the opposite..
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With tax 250 but he spent almost 3 hours on it including the drives and going over the options with me
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With tax 250 but he spent almost 3 hours on it including the drives and going over the options with me
I've used Fischer in the past on my prior Porsches. He's not worked on my 991 though.