When 370 is enough
12-23-2018, 10:36 PM
#256
Love this thread, glad it is still going strong.
12-23-2018, 10:43 PM
#257
My daily driver is a Ford Fiesta ST that I bought used for $16,000. I have a Stage 1 tune on it producing 215 hp and 248 tq. For a little hatchback that weighs about 2740 lbs. , it’s definitely a blast to drive around town. It’s my urban rally car. I’m happy with the 370 hp of my Carrera T. Maybe when it is out of warranty I will tune it if I feel the need for more power.
12-23-2018, 10:57 PM
#258
My daily driver is a Ford Fiesta ST that I bought used for $16,000. I have a Stage 1 tune on it producing 215 hp and 248 tq. For a little hatchback that weighs about 2740 lbs. , it’s definitely a blast to drive around town. It’s my urban rally car. I’m happy with the 370 hp of my Carrera T. Maybe when it is out of warranty I will tune it if I feel the need for more power.
12-23-2018, 11:18 PM
#260
My DD is an 8yr old 328xi BMW. I love that car and it only has 240HP.
The used M3 I picked up few months ago, 414HP, got me a ticket literally 2 hours later.
The GTS easily pulls 45mph in 1st gear (430HP).
I'm a big believer in "less is more." I can't enjoy these cars on public roads and don't track so what's the point in more horse power?
I would be super happy with a 370HP 911, but the turbo motor and electric steering are entirely different matter.
I'd say invest time and money learning how to better drive the cars you already have rather than to chase HPs.
The used M3 I picked up few months ago, 414HP, got me a ticket literally 2 hours later.
The GTS easily pulls 45mph in 1st gear (430HP).
I'm a big believer in "less is more." I can't enjoy these cars on public roads and don't track so what's the point in more horse power?
I would be super happy with a 370HP 911, but the turbo motor and electric steering are entirely different matter.
I'd say invest time and money learning how to better drive the cars you already have rather than to chase HPs.
12-23-2018, 11:26 PM
#261
That's great, I had a Fiesta ST and it is certainly a lesson in "less is more." That car is a riot. I'd drive around with my right foot on the floor and a big grin. Only 200HP but it felt like a lot more due to the turbo torque, similar to the T. Small displacement turbocharged with a flat torque curve. One of my tests for a good, fun car is if it encourages me to drive like an asshat. The Fiesta did that and I had to exercise restraint. I get my T late this week and I hope it does the same! I've had several high HP performance cars and seem to be drawn back to the usable and approachable limits of lower HP cars. Even on the track, in high HP cars, when I request every available HP powering out of a turn, I end up with so much speed that I'd often overcook the next turn, get off the line and take another turn to gather myself, then rinse and repeat. It's not fun, it's actually a lot of work, and I'm not a good enough driver to properly use the HP on the track, and certainly not on the street.
12-24-2018, 10:26 AM
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My DD is an 8yr old 328xi BMW. I love that car and it only has 240HP.
The used M3 I picked up few months ago, 414HP, got me a ticket literally 2 hours later.
The GTS easily pulls 45mph in 1st gear (430HP).
I'm a big believer in "less is more." I can't enjoy these cars on public roads and don't track so what's the point in more horse power?
I would be super happy with a 370HP 911, but the turbo motor and electric steering are entirely different matter.
I'd say invest time and money learning how to better drive the cars you already have rather than to chase HPs.
The used M3 I picked up few months ago, 414HP, got me a ticket literally 2 hours later.
The GTS easily pulls 45mph in 1st gear (430HP).
I'm a big believer in "less is more." I can't enjoy these cars on public roads and don't track so what's the point in more horse power?
I would be super happy with a 370HP 911, but the turbo motor and electric steering are entirely different matter.
I'd say invest time and money learning how to better drive the cars you already have rather than to chase HPs.
12-24-2018, 10:58 AM
#264
Originally Posted by JustBud
Your .1 has electric steering. I would agree bettering your driving skills pays off much more than HP.
12-24-2018, 11:18 AM
#265
Drifting
My DD is an 8yr old 328xi BMW. I love that car and it only has 240HP.
The used M3 I picked up few months ago, 414HP, got me a ticket literally 2 hours later.
The GTS easily pulls 45mph in 1st gear (430HP).
I'm a big believer in "less is more." I can't enjoy these cars on public roads and don't track so what's the point in more horse power?
I would be super happy with a 370HP 911, but the turbo motor and electric steering are entirely different matter.
I'd say invest time and money learning how to better drive the cars you already have rather than to chase HPs.
The used M3 I picked up few months ago, 414HP, got me a ticket literally 2 hours later.
The GTS easily pulls 45mph in 1st gear (430HP).
I'm a big believer in "less is more." I can't enjoy these cars on public roads and don't track so what's the point in more horse power?
I would be super happy with a 370HP 911, but the turbo motor and electric steering are entirely different matter.
I'd say invest time and money learning how to better drive the cars you already have rather than to chase HPs.
God bless,
TT
12-24-2018, 11:22 AM
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Slow car fast is by far the most fun on the street and canyons in SoCal.
My gt3rs is the least fun street car
964 hot rod and spyder are the most fun
My gt3rs is the least fun street car
964 hot rod and spyder are the most fun
12-24-2018, 02:09 PM
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The "370 is enough" sentiment really fits for me.
I just picked up my first Porsche - a 2017 991.2 Carrera. I love it. For me, this was the right intersection of "fast and fun" but it's not so special that I feel bad putting roof racks and my surfboard on it. Some of the other options I was considering in the same price range felt too special, and less daily. That said, I still want to add a 964 and a 2020 GT4 to the garage eventually. 3 is enough, right?
I just picked up my first Porsche - a 2017 991.2 Carrera. I love it. For me, this was the right intersection of "fast and fun" but it's not so special that I feel bad putting roof racks and my surfboard on it. Some of the other options I was considering in the same price range felt too special, and less daily. That said, I still want to add a 964 and a 2020 GT4 to the garage eventually. 3 is enough, right?
12-24-2018, 02:48 PM
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I think whatever makes you happy is what you should drive, brand, hp, engine type, coupe or cab, etc........
But I do have to laugh when I see how this forum was reacting over the last 10 years and bellyaching about how other brands Corvette, GTR, fill in the blank we're beating Porsche in the HP and TQ department. Too small HP increases in new model years, not enough low end torque, yada, yada, yada,.....
Same forum and some of the same guys now can't figure out what to do with 370hp, 330 Lb's of TQ. I am not belittling the conversation just see it as somewhat of a huge contradiction from previous gripes about Porsche HP.
One of my favorite early cars were the 2 Triumph TR6's I had in the 70's, 100hp, 117 lb's of TQ. Thought those 2 cars were magical. Does that mean I will trade my TTS for a 370 base, not likely. It's 2019, it's not only about what we need it's about what we can have. Wife, kids, home, savings, etc... for God's sake this is a Porsche forum.
But I do have to laugh when I see how this forum was reacting over the last 10 years and bellyaching about how other brands Corvette, GTR, fill in the blank we're beating Porsche in the HP and TQ department. Too small HP increases in new model years, not enough low end torque, yada, yada, yada,.....
Same forum and some of the same guys now can't figure out what to do with 370hp, 330 Lb's of TQ. I am not belittling the conversation just see it as somewhat of a huge contradiction from previous gripes about Porsche HP.
One of my favorite early cars were the 2 Triumph TR6's I had in the 70's, 100hp, 117 lb's of TQ. Thought those 2 cars were magical. Does that mean I will trade my TTS for a 370 base, not likely. It's 2019, it's not only about what we need it's about what we can have. Wife, kids, home, savings, etc... for God's sake this is a Porsche forum.
12-24-2018, 03:57 PM
#269
Drifting
I think whatever makes you happy is what you should drive, brand, hp, engine type, coupe or cab, etc........
But I do have to laugh when I see how this forum was reacting over the last 10 years and bellyaching about how other brands Corvette, GTR, fill in the blank we're beating Porsche in the HP and TQ department. Too small HP increases in new model years, not enough low end torque, yada, yada, yada,.....
Same forum and some of the same guys now can't figure out what to do with 370hp, 330 Lb's of TQ. I am not belittling the conversation just see it as somewhat of a huge contradiction from previous gripes about Porsche HP.
One of my favorite early cars were the 2 Triumph TR6's I had in the 70's, 100hp, 117 lb's of TQ. Thought those 2 cars were magical. Does that mean I will trade my TTS for a 370 base, not likely. It's 2019, it's not only about what we need it's about what we can have. Wife, kids, home, savings, etc... for God's sake this is a Porsche forum.
But I do have to laugh when I see how this forum was reacting over the last 10 years and bellyaching about how other brands Corvette, GTR, fill in the blank we're beating Porsche in the HP and TQ department. Too small HP increases in new model years, not enough low end torque, yada, yada, yada,.....
Same forum and some of the same guys now can't figure out what to do with 370hp, 330 Lb's of TQ. I am not belittling the conversation just see it as somewhat of a huge contradiction from previous gripes about Porsche HP.
One of my favorite early cars were the 2 Triumph TR6's I had in the 70's, 100hp, 117 lb's of TQ. Thought those 2 cars were magical. Does that mean I will trade my TTS for a 370 base, not likely. It's 2019, it's not only about what we need it's about what we can have. Wife, kids, home, savings, etc... for God's sake this is a Porsche forum.
God bless,
TT
12-24-2018, 03:59 PM
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