Porsche CS Surveys, Do They Matter?
#1
Racer
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Porsche CS Surveys, Do They Matter?
I recently had my Porsche Sport Exhaust (PSE) programmed at my local dealership and I am fully satisfied with my interaction there. My service advisor is always pleasant,helpful and informative. Following the visit, I completed a positive online survey and caught myself wondering, Will this matter? Do any of you folks work in this business and have any insight? Only once in many, many years have I given a bad review to a staff person (GM, Salesman, Advisor, Mechanic, Counter person etc. at Porsche). The dealership didn't contact me for follow-up, but the receiver of my bad tidings did! They definitely let me know that it wasn't appreciated! However, that was quite some time ago and in a different state/dealership,
#2
Ties directly to comp/bonus for the dealership from the OEM (and the advisor/ department). That’s why they say if you are to score anything less than a 10, to please contact them directly beforehand.
Also figures into the metric they use to determine dealership allocations. This is essentially the same across most all OEMs.
Also figures into the metric they use to determine dealership allocations. This is essentially the same across most all OEMs.
#3
Rennlist Member
Generally, I can't see how these surveys matter. They encourage you to give them all 5s (10?), so those mean nothing. Anything less than a perfect score is a failure, then, so it's a binary system in a world that has many shades of gray. You either get a perfect score - which doesn't offer any suggestions or assistance in becoming better - or you fail. And lose allocation, bonuses, etc etc. It's a system that is really for show. Make it a yes or no questionnaire of that's the objective. If you offer "shades", USE THEM!!
I generally don't bother with them. I'm happy with my dealer and if I have any issues, I speak with them directly.
If there was something really bad, I'd fill out the form and give something less than a perfect score.
I generally don't bother with them. I'm happy with my dealer and if I have any issues, I speak with them directly.
If there was something really bad, I'd fill out the form and give something less than a perfect score.
#4
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Personal rule of thumb: you mention the survey, or hint at how I should respond, it results in automatic non-participation from me.
If I was the vindictive type, it would result in all “1s”
If I was the vindictive type, it would result in all “1s”
#5
I don’t see the big deal with letting us know about them. Also nothing wrong with explaining how they work and how they are scored. While I agree it’s now a binary metric, explaining how they work and why is perfectly fine to me.
Nobody is forcing any of us to respond, just letting us know the impact....our decision to be helpful or vindictive or do nothing is still in or hands.
My dealership and the staff have been great to me, I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t give them full marks (and have)....not their fault the auto industry is structured the way it is.
Nobody is forcing any of us to respond, just letting us know the impact....our decision to be helpful or vindictive or do nothing is still in or hands.
My dealership and the staff have been great to me, I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t give them full marks (and have)....not their fault the auto industry is structured the way it is.
#6
Rennlist Member
I'm in the business and you better believe that they are important to the dealership and the individual employees. Compensation, Incentives, Contests, Rewards, etc. are all controlled by this score. Basically it is binary. Either 10 or anything less might as well be a 0. A vindictive person can help destroy an innocent employee's career.
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#8
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I'm in the business and you better believe that they are important to the dealership and the individual employees. Compensation, Incentives, Contests, Rewards, etc. are all controlled by this score. Basically it is binary. Either 10 or anything less might as well be a 0. A vindictive person can help destroy an innocent employee's career.
#9
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My take on these things...
They help your service advisor and the dealership. If they are good to you, be good to them by filling it out positively.
I consider the relationship with a service advisor a long term one that goes both ways.
They help your service advisor and the dealership. If they are good to you, be good to them by filling it out positively.
I consider the relationship with a service advisor a long term one that goes both ways.
#10
I'm in the business and you better believe that they are important to the dealership and the individual employees. Compensation, Incentives, Contests, Rewards, etc. are all controlled by this score. Basically it is binary. Either 10 or anything less might as well be a 0. A vindictive person can help destroy an innocent employee's career.
#11
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A few months ago, a friend of mine, new to this country, went to buy a new Ford SUV for his wife. I asked him how was his experience, and he said it had been ok, and bought the car. Fast forward about 30 days, and something went wrong with the car, and he brought it back to the dealership.... He said that he felt they wanted to lynch him! He was berated for scoring all 7 - 8's on the survey. He was so confused and mad when he told me about the dealer's reaction. In his defense, he did rate them appropriately, a good experience, an 8, but not anything spectacular. But in their book, that had ruined them.
#12
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I doubt they have much of an effect. I had a less then optimal experience when buying my new 911. Filled out survey and gave a very honest and sub par review and explained exactly what went wrong and why went well. A short time later I received a email from the GM to call. I went through everything again chapter and verse. He told me not to worry and let him know the cost to remedy the situation. When I emailed him back to let him know the outcome he never got back to me. No follow up from PCNA either.
#13
They matter. I gave my local dealership a poor rating for poor service a few years ago and the GM called up basically cussing me out. I visited the same dealership last week and basically gave them all tens. They had improved greatly and the former GM is no longer there.
#14
They Matter, I'm a tech at a Mazda dealer and I get paid off the surveys. I get bad surveys on everything from the rental car being dirty to the traffic getting to the dealer. People are nasty. They complain about EVERYTHING! Bottom line make sure you state what you don't like about your visit. Don't give all 1's for bad coffee.
#15
OP. There have been some interesting threads on this in the past. Bottom line. If you give your dealer/service center a bad CS, you will most likely get a call back. Be careful though as it might affect your future relationship with them if you need them to go to bat for you on anything with PCNA.
Jim
Jim