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Old 05-10-2018, 09:37 AM
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Default P Zero to MPS4S on 2013 911

Inner Voice: Not another new thread on this topic (inner voice also told me not to get the 911)

Switched to MPS4S from the original P-Zero's. Current mileage on my 2013 911 around ~26K miles. Had the car for 2+ years (16+K miles). I could have gotten another 4K on the current P-Zero's, but Costco had a deal going [went to get Organic Banana's and instead, got Tires and btw, forgot about the Bananas:-)]

Night and day for me, on my daily drive. I can't speak for the noise/comfort/handling on new P-Zero's when compared to new MPS4S, but what a difference between the last 2+ years ride and now. Just have to wait and see how long this will last.

Bought tires at Costco and got in mounted/road-force balanced at the dealer.

Enjoy the summer!

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Originally Posted by 991howl
Inner Voice: Not another new thread on this topic (inner voice also told me not to get the 911)

Switched to MPS4S from the original P-Zero's. Current mileage on my 2013 911 around ~26K miles. Had the car for 2+ years (16+K miles). I could have gotten another 4K on the current P-Zero's, but Costco had a deal going [went to get Organic Banana's and got Tires instead and btw, forgot about the Bananas:-)]

Night and day for me, on my daily drive. I can't speak for the noise/comfort/handling on new P-Zero's when compared to new MPS4S, but what a difference between the last 2+ years ride and now. Just have to wait and see how long this will last.

Bought tires at Costco and got in mounted/road-force balanced at the dealer.

Enjoy the summer!
So what is the actual difference?
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You should have listened to your inner voice on the thread, not the 911...
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I'm doing the same on the same year later this summer / fall so your post made me even more excited! I want to completely kill these P-Zeros in at least 1 more autocross.
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I had a set of the P4S's mounted yesterday on my '14 C4S. I've noticed a small improvement in noise level and ride quality, but the noise level is still very high on anything but European quality asphalt. (The roads in NW Washington seem to be paved in either rough concrete or sharp gravel set in minimal binder.) Incidentally, the set I installed are now Porsche spec and have a fairly pronounced rim guard.
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I contacted tirerack about the MPS4S and they do have the “N0” tires although not listed on their website yet. Looking to change from the Pirellis to the new Michelin on my 2014 911s later this summer. around 1,500 without shipping with 305’s on the back tires.
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Just a fyi.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1067695-michelin-ps4s-performance-911-gts-issues-questions.html
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I replaced a set of PZeros with MPS4S N0s a couple of months ago. I find the ride comfort to be noticeably better, the noise marginally better, the road feel significantly better and the grip in a different league (way better) on the MPS4S tires. I will say that at the track it proved very important to keep the hot pressures no more the 35 PSI. The handling did get less predictable at higher PSI on the track, which is exactly what I read on these forums and what I heard from friends.
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Originally Posted by madrambler
I replaced a set of PZeros with MPS4S N0s a couple of months ago. I find the ride comfort to be noticeably better, the noise marginally better, the road feel significantly better and the grip in a different league (way better) on the MPS4S tires. I will say that at the track it proved very important to keep the hot pressures no more the 35 PSI. The handling did get less predictable at higher PSI on the track, which is exactly what I read on these forums and what I heard from friends.

what year, model and size tires do you have

thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by Aku700

curious if anything will will help you resolve your problems

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@Kennethjk - 2013 911S, 245/35-20 Front, 305/30-20 Rear
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I did the same switch on my Cayman S, I can echo the sentiments about the MPS4S being superior in every way. I also ripped those Pzeros off early for the MPS4S N0's
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Just made the same change on my 991.1 C4S and had a similar experience. The car just feels more planted and fun to drive. On top of that the last remaining squeaks/rattles are now gone!
I've been taking my car to the dealer to remove a lot of the squeaks/rattles so the tires don't get all the credit, but after changing into the new tires I'm actually enjoying driving the car for the first time in a while. It really feels like a new car.

Plus it had some good company while getting the new tires installed.
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Just switched my 13 C2S to MPS4S and glad I did. The car does feel more planted to me and love the handling. My local Porsche dealer gave me the choice of PZero or Michelins - I was surprised by that since Michelins aren't NO for the "Narrow" body car. The dealer confirmed this and got me the Ferrari version instead. No fitment issues and am very happy!
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Originally Posted by ecstratrd
Just switched my 13 C2S to MPS4S and glad I did. The car does feel more planted to me and love the handling. My local Porsche dealer gave me the choice of PZero or Michelins - I was surprised by that since Michelins aren't NO for the "Narrow" body car. The dealer confirmed this and got me the Ferrari version instead. No fitment issues and am very happy!

I wasn’t aware that the N0 version is not for the narrow version, interesting they would say that the Ferrari version was better.

Now not sure what to do. I will have to look into this further, thanks for the information.


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