Spyerx

I'm on this simplify kick lately. I have this itch to get a car to drive mostly to and at the track. I have a GT3RS that I drive on track, I have a 964 build that is track oriented. But, those 2 cars are really more tow to the track and drive, load trailer, spare tires, gear, etc. I'm so busy lately I just want to wake up at 5am, hop in car, drive to track, do some laps, come home. Simplify.

I'm not a mid engine person, I like 911s. Had a GT4, didn't love it. I like manuals, don't want a PDK. And I don't really want something as high strung as a new GT3. I have some time on track in a 991RS and 991GT3 and well, they are not nearly as fun as either of my 2 cars (albeit stupid fast and capable)

What I'd order? A stripped in GT silver with buckets 911T. 0 option car. Add a harness/roll bar, belts, brake pads, and brake fluids and drive it to and at the track. Keep it simple. That's it.

I need to go drive a base manual this weekend and see if this is an itch i need to scratch. My biggest concern is I like cars a little hard edged, very direct, and very tossable.

This is my dilemma.


But I also know how substantially capable the new cars are.

Spyerx

OH heres an offer. If there is a T owner here in SoCal that's willing to take me for a spin, i'll reciprocate with my 997RS... canyons required.

tgavem

Spyerx

^ ha.. yeah, i remember, I really need to get back to COTA. Tim keeps bugging me :-) I'd avoid mod city, for me, it's a never ending journey, i go full out, or nothing. See my 964 build for the insanity of that thing... lol. Our tracks here other than maybe auto club just aren't that hard on brakes like COTA, so wondering if stock brakes will be fine with proper pads, fluid. I am guessing they will be, porsche brakes are outstanding.

I haven't ordered one yet, but have a couple options for allocations that would put me right after summer heat in fall track season.

go.illini

For me the T only makes sense in stripper configuration. Otherwise it gets too close to a basic S build. Personally I'd rather have an S over LWB seats.

tgavem

Rennolazine

The mechanical diff and shorter ratios are standard on the S (free). Short shifter is a few hundred $ if you dyi. You cannot spec buckets on the S though.

golfnutintib

chris - i thought about this when they announced the car

problem with the T is that they saddled it with the weakest brakes in the range... and then is not materially lighter than a regular 991.2 carrera/s

the way we drive on track the stock brakes need to be upgraded immediately or the car will melt

then, to me, the fun of tracking a stick shift car is to have to have the skill/coordination to be in the right part of the rev band at the right time... T as turbo car, chipped, whatever, full torque off idle... why bother? just get a flappy paddle car then

i think the whole idea of the T is just marketing jibberish... not much substance

worldwidewebs

Just a thought... Maybe you don't know how to brake properly on track. Most people don't

golfnutintib

the sun is out and it is a weekend... no time nor energy for trolls

alex_c

I'm sorry, but you may not have been using the configurator lately...

I configured a Base and an S EXACTLY as my very well spec'd T. The Base came just under $4,200 BUT missing PTV, Limited Slip Diff, Sport PASM, Rear Axle Steering, LWG and a unique interior and model designation, which make the upgrade to the T well worth it.

Now, compared with the S, the S was over $12,000 more expensive than the T. And what you get for that? 40 HP (with additional turbo lag) and the upgraded brakes. For less than that you can get the Carbon Ceramic Brakes and a tune, and still have $3,000 left.

So I think there are noticeable price differences not only at the bare bones configuration price, but also at the high-end configuration trim spectrum.

Best thing you can do is configure all trim levels as you like, and then compare. These blanket statements about getting into another trim level pricing are a gross generalization. And if you want LWB, the next trim level that has them is the GT3...

BlackOptic

Rennolazine

OP. Get a T with buckets and rear axle steering, and buy the brembos in the parts section .. come with 2 sets of rotors. Should be a legit track weapon.

Did u see the youtube (sport auto) track battle video carrera T vs GT3 touring? They are very close.

tgavem

LavaGTS

Not to mention the tuning that can come out of the 3.0

You'd be able to create a lightweight 911 T that would school GT3's at the track and Turbo's at the drag strip with the right mods and tune.