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Old 03-13-2018, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutintib
is the non-S version of 991 C4 made in wider tail body? didn't know that...
yes, it’s the C4 that has the wide body, either in S or non S version. The S only relates to the engine.

Only exception is the GTS, where all variants have the widebody, C4 and C2.
Old 03-13-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ssc5174
This is great - thank you all! Since I’m considering base models - 2013 C4 vs C2 - interested in thoughts about power. I’ve driven a number of the C2 models and power is fine - not overwhelming, but good enough for me. For those that have driven both, should I expect to see a meaningful difference in power with the C4? Assume not but again, can’t find a C4 locally to test drive.

C4 and C2 should have same power. Obviously the AWD adds some extra weight. And C4S has same engine & power as C2S.
Old 03-13-2018, 07:16 PM
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I went through the same dilemma when shopping for my 991.2

Went C4 over C2

I like that the C4 is more "rare" (dont know or care to explain why), and much prefer the looks of the C4 to C2 with wide body + killer looking light bar (in my opinion)

Then it came down to C4 vs C4S for me, I wanted base engine as in the .2 it is perfection *to me* with the right amount of useable power for fun daily and spirited weekend drives, and I am crazy but wanted they grey (standard) brakes to match my grey/silver/black theme vs the brighter reds

Also - RWD on the C2 will make it more fun and the rear might feel more frisky (as many would argue a 911 should feel), but I love love love the immense AWD grip entering and exiting corners...the car just feels literally glued to the asphalt
Old 03-13-2018, 08:10 PM
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I have a 991.1 C4 PDK. I would also consider myself a rear wheel and manual purist. I have not been disappointed in the C4, I second the immense grip the AWD gives you. I can't get it to break free on MPS 4S tires in the wet nearing full lock on twisty roads, I just don't have the courage.

While a C2 provides more accessible fun the C4 has given me an appreciation of what AWD can do, I look forward to exploring it's limit on a track. On back roads my wife will hit me in the shoulder as I try to break it a free a little... telling her the car shouldn't be this composed. I have had her crying as I'm giggling nervously in disbelief, it's a different sort of fun.

You'll be happy with either, I do not regret having the C4, and the wide body and light bar are a little more 'rare' and quite good looking.
Old 03-13-2018, 08:27 PM
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If I were daily driving year round I'd have a base C4. That said, I've winter driven several rear wheel drive sports cars and it's absolutely doable!

I may very well take my own advice and replace my Golf R with a second 911 in a few years, probably PDK so my wife can drive it .
Old 03-13-2018, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by koala
If I were daily driving year round I'd have a base C4. That said, I've winter driven several rear wheel drive sports cars and it's absolutely doable!

I may very well take my own advice and replace my Golf R with a second 911 in a few years, probably PDK so my wife can drive it .
IMO for winter/wet conditions, tires are much more important than RWD vs AWD in a 911...If the conditions were such that I would be tentative taking out a C2 with winter tires, I don't think having the AWD of the C4 would change my opinion

It's more the driving dynamic and aesthetics if you have equal access to a C2 and C4 (C4 is harder to find/get)
Old 03-13-2018, 08:30 PM
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I have had (leased for 27 months) a 2015 C2 and now own a 2014 C4, both with PDK. The C4 has a much better road feel to me. The C4 glides through long hard corners where as the C2 sort of dips through corners. The C4 has PSM and that really helps. My wife use to complain of car sickness brought on by my spirited driving up PCH in NorCal, and around Tahoe. Now when we go out on long drives she simple talks about the scenery and the location of the next Starbucks.

I have had both and the C4 is the way better ride to me and to my wife.
Old 03-13-2018, 08:52 PM
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I've had a 2013 C4 daily driver for 3 years and love it. The first owner had a set of winter tires but no extra wheels so the first thing I bought was a set of Porsche wheels for the winter tires. Change them in March and October. Although having no comparison, 350 hp. is more than sufficient. I'm keeping and driving this car forever.
Old 03-13-2018, 08:54 PM
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Look at all these C4 owners crawling out from the ground!! I thought me and subshooter were the only ones
Old 03-13-2018, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark993TT


yes, it’s the C4 that has the wide body, either in S or non S version. The S only relates to the engine.

Only exception is the GTS, where all variants have the widebody, C4 and C2.
makes perfect sense - gts did confuse me - learn sumthin new evry day - thx
Old 03-14-2018, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by malibuboy
I have had (leased for 27 months) a 2015 C2 and now own a 2014 C4, both with PDK. The C4 has a much better road feel to me. The C4 glides through long hard corners where as the C2 sort of dips through corners. The C4 has PSM and that really helps. My wife use to complain of car sickness brought on by my spirited driving up PCH in NorCal, and around Tahoe. Now when we go out on long drives she simple talks about the scenery and the location of the next Starbucks.

I have had both and the C4 is the way better ride to me and to my wife.
thanks for your thoughts: do you feel like the steering is heavier in the C4? What about power delivery - does the extra weight slow the car down noticeably? The performance numbers look pretty close to me.
Old 03-14-2018, 07:35 AM
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I drove a 4S for 4 years after owning 4 previous TT’s. All widebody and AWD Porsche’s. I love the look and the handling of the Porsche “big butt” cars. Excellent handling, so sure footed on any road and beautiful to look at. When I sold my 4S I moved to another widebody AWD car in the TTS. Don’t think I could own anything else. Get what you want, regardless of others opinions and regardless of weather unless severe.
Old 03-14-2018, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by malibuboy
I have had (leased for 27 months) a 2015 C2 and now own a 2014 C4, both with PDK. The C4 has a much better road feel to me. The C4 glides through long hard corners where as the C2 sort of dips through corners. The C4 has PSM and that really helps. My wife use to complain of car sickness brought on by my spirited driving up PCH in NorCal, and around Tahoe. Now when we go out on long drives she simple talks about the scenery and the location of the next Starbucks.

I have had both and the C4 is the way better ride to me and to my wife.
So does the C2. All of the 991s have PSM. I think you meant PTV?
Old 03-14-2018, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sampelligrino
IMO for winter/wet conditions, tires are much more important than RWD vs AWD in a 911...If the conditions were such that I would be tentative taking out a C2 with winter tires, I don't think having the AWD of the C4 would change my opinion

It's more the driving dynamic and aesthetics if you have equal access to a C2 and C4 (C4 is harder to find/get)
Oh, of course. Tires are the most important thing for any vehicle frankly.
Old 03-14-2018, 12:32 PM
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Can you get RWS with the 4? I would buy the 4 with RWS if that was an option. The AWD 997 TTS I had pushed a lot in corners... did not feel that with RWD.


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