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A little of the 918 in your everyday 911

Old 03-05-2018, 11:46 PM
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Default A little of the 918 in your everyday 911

As it is widely known, developments in flagship vehicles eventually end up trickling down to the "lesser" models of any manufacturer as time goes by.

After watching a very entertaining documentary from the Smithsonian Channel about the development of the 918 Spyder, I couldn't help but notice how may things have trickled down to the 911 in just a few years since the 918's debut back in 2014.

What are some of these things? Perhaps a lot more than we, mere observers from the outside will ever know, but others are quite evident.

H​​​​​​ere are some that come to mind:

1. Steering wheel. The current Porsche steering wheel, modeled after the 918 made its first appearance in the Macan. Since then it morphed even more in the 991.2 when it was fitted to the 911, along with the visible screws on the GT version of the wheel, and the mode control switch, complete with the Sports Response button. Pretty cool isn't it?

2. Four dot LED running lights. As far as I am aware, these also appeared for the first time in the 918, giving now a distinctive look to all Porsche vehicles on the road.

3. 3D Sculpted Rear Lights. Again, something that has made it all the way from the 918 to the Macan and now to the 991.2, Panamera and the new Cayenne.

4. Active Air Intake Flaps. I will just copy Porsche's own description: "The active air intake flaps in the front air intakes act to reduce fuel consumption during everyday trips and to achieve superlative performance on sporty drives. Already proven on the 918 Spyder, the flaps close automatically while the car is in motion and thereby reduce drag."

5. Rear Wheel Steering. Making its first appearance in any Porsche back in 2014 behind the 918 Spyder, the full active rear-wheel steering system made its way from there to the GT3, then the Turbo and now is one more option on the 991.2 version of the 911.


As I mentioned, I'm sure there are many other places where the legacy of the 918 lives on the rest of the Porsche line of vehicles, and while a 918 may only be a dream for most of us, it definitely puts a smile on my face thinking how these cool things are now available on the 911, and particularly on my soon to be delivered Carrera T of all places!

Please feel free to contribute any other known developments from the 918 that have made it to the mainstream line of Porsche's.

Cheers!

Old 03-05-2018, 11:54 PM
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Pretty cool. Good that the features which found their way into 911s aren't all just cosmetics.
Regarding Rear wheel steering it perhaps came to Porsche from Mitsubishi who used it in 90's with 3000GT.
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Originally Posted by alex_c
4. Active Air Intake Flaps. I will just copy Porsche's own description: "The active air intake flaps in the front air intakes act to reduce fuel consumption during everyday trips and to achieve superlative performance on sporty drives. Already proven on the 918 Spyder, the flaps close automatically while the car is in motion and thereby reduce drag."
FYI: A little 928 in the 918. The 928 had active intake flaps in 1987.
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Very cool.

Nissan's also had four wheel steering although not as sophisticated at Porsche's I'm sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HICAS
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Originally Posted by CarreraFahrer
Very cool.

Nissan's also had four wheel steering although not as sophisticated at Porsche's I'm sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HICAS
Ha, although I had my 300zx (which did not have it) I did not know.
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I had a 1993 300 ZX TT and it had four wheel steering. Only the TT's had it.

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Originally Posted by CarreraFahrer
Very cool.

Nissan's also had four wheel steering although not as sophisticated at Porsche's I'm sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HICAS

As did the 3000GT Mitsuibsihi. It also had active aero spoilers front and rear, and digital AC controls.

As a matter of fact when it was out, Porsche dealers had mostly long faces around 92 or so. They supposedly didn't like the 951s or the 928s they had for sale before, you know water cooled and front engines and all that sacrilege - but they liked selling about 50 cars a YEAR even less than that.
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Yes very cool. I remember years ago. I would buy a new 7 series every 3 years as my DD. By the end of the 3rd years all the new and cool features were already incorporated in the 5 series.
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Originally Posted by Papa Fittig
Pretty cool. Good that the features which found their way into 911s aren't all just cosmetics.
Regarding Rear wheel steering it perhaps came to Porsche from Mitsubishi who used it in 90's with 3000GT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c9dxEnYh3Y
The Honda Prelude (April '87) was the first car to hit the U.S. market with four wheel steering (although Nissan had it in the Japanese market a little sooner, late '85), quickly followed by Mazda (a few weeks after the Prelude), Mitsubishi (late '87), Nissan ('88-'89), and Toyota (late '89).

Nice article about it here, including the 928's role:

http://autoweek.com/article/car-life...ng-demystified
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
The Honda Prelude (April '87) was the first car to hit the U.S. market with four wheel steering (although Nissan had it in the Japanese market a little sooner, late '85), quickly followed by Mazda (a few weeks after the Prelude), Mitsubishi (late '87), Nissan ('88-'89), and Toyota (late '89).

Nice article about it here, including the 928's role:

http://autoweek.com/article/car-life...ng-demystified
good article, thx for the link
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
The Honda Prelude (April '87) was the first car to hit the U.S. market with four wheel steering (although Nissan had it in the Japanese market a little sooner, late '85), quickly followed by Mazda (a few weeks after the Prelude), Mitsubishi (late '87), Nissan ('88-'89), and Toyota (late '89).

Nice article about it here, including the 928's role:

http://autoweek.com/article/car-life...ng-demystified
Thanks, I had forgotten about the Prelude 4WS.
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Wow, two pages of responses about Japanese cars and nothing about Porsche...
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There’s a little of the 918 in your everyday 911 but a lot of the Prius in the 918. I wonder if it has the little “try driving slowly in the left lane” notice that pops up too.
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Originally Posted by Papa Fittig
Pretty cool. Good that the features which found their way into 911s aren't all just cosmetics.
Regarding Rear wheel steering it perhaps came to Porsche from Mitsubishi who used it in 90's with 3000GT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c9dxEnYh3Y
Honda and Mazda both had production models with active 4 wheel steering in the 1980’s, and then GM made a go of it on pickup trucks (slick option, but pretty $). However, credit for the first car with *active* 4 wheel steering goes to Mercedes on the G5 model from the 1930’s.


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Originally Posted by Papa Fittig
good article, thx for the link
Originally Posted by CarreraFahrer
Thanks, I had forgotten about the Prelude 4WS.
What I find interesting is that the Japanese manufacturers jumped on it in the mid to late 80s...and then dropped it! GM trucks had it in the early 2000s as an option, too, then it was gone a few years later. Too complex? Customers didn't care?

Seems to be making a comeback of sorts, at least with Porsche sports cars lol...

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