Carrera vs. Carrera T - latest issue of Total 911
03-04-2018, 06:34 PM
#31
I would also like to see S brakes on the T.
03-04-2018, 07:32 PM
#32
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I was trying to figure out how much the S brakes would cost. Rears are the same. Based on what Im seeing on sunsetporsche parts it cant be more than 3000. You can cerakote them black for a couple hundred bucks. Brembos are 3500-4000.
03-04-2018, 11:28 PM
#33
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But can anyone confirm the S brakes will bolt up to the T without changing the wheel carriers/Knuckles?
I have a request in to Suncoast but haven't heard back with their findings yet.
EDIT: I just looked at Sunset Porsche parts diagram. It looks like the knuckles are the same for the base 991.2 and the S. So it should be a straightforward swap.
03-05-2018, 03:09 AM
#34
I don’t mean to highjack this thread but have been curious about this question and I may be naive about it also...when I spec similar T and C2S models on configurator, the difference is about $3k. Can someone explain all the hype regarding the T? Why not buy an S? Thanks.
The base 3.0L motor when I drove it, again for me, was just amazing. It's goldilocks of turbo and NA engines: minimal lag with consistent power delivery up to near redline (rather than turbos on and then out of breath), but still a very fun shove when the turbos do kick in and the "shove" continues up till near redline.
Just my 2 cents and why I went for a C4 rather than GTS or C2S when I was cross shopping them. And even the base engine will get me into trouble if I am driving spiritedly....
03-05-2018, 09:54 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by sampelligrino
I want to be clear that this is *just my opinion*, but I actually prefer the 370HP base Carrera engine to the higher levels of boost/hp in the other 3.0L motors. Now I have not specifically driven the .2 C2S, but I had driven the .2 GTS and it had more turbo lag and just too much power on tap once the turbo's did kick in, that I felt I wouldn't be able to really ever wind the engine out outside of a track. 2nd gear manual mode, get on the gas and wow break immediately.
The base 3.0L motor when I drove it, again for me, was just amazing. It's goldilocks of turbo and NA engines: minimal lag with consistent power delivery up to near redline (rather than turbos on and then out of breath), but still a very fun shove when the turbos do kick in and the "shove" continues up till near redline.
Just my 2 cents and why I went for a C4 rather than GTS or C2S when I was cross shopping them. And even the base engine will get me into trouble if I am driving spiritedly....
The base 3.0L motor when I drove it, again for me, was just amazing. It's goldilocks of turbo and NA engines: minimal lag with consistent power delivery up to near redline (rather than turbos on and then out of breath), but still a very fun shove when the turbos do kick in and the "shove" continues up till near redline.
Just my 2 cents and why I went for a C4 rather than GTS or C2S when I was cross shopping them. And even the base engine will get me into trouble if I am driving spiritedly....
I don't think that buying a T is just a matter of cost. I didn't get a T because I could not afford an S or GTS. Heck, my build's cost is well into GTS territory.
I'm buying the T because it has the engine I prefer, while allowing me to get the options I want (PTV, LSD, S-PASM and Rear Axle Steering).
Now I get to enjoy those things in a package that is unique in itself, adds even more goodies (GT2RS rear glass, better Shifter, unique styling cues).
So, I really didn't care if this was going to cost more or less than an S or GTS. This is what I wanted to buy for me.
And what about resale???? I could care less. In most cases you may get hosed at trade-in one way or another. That is why I always sell my cars directly, and so far very successfully. Most likely there are a few other crazies like me out there that like the same things I do
And from the reviews I've read so far, I think I made the right decision going with the T.
Cheers!
03-05-2018, 10:14 AM
#36
Does anyone think it would be ridiculous to delete the lightweight glass on a T?
I read in a couple of threads that the lightweight glass looks/feels cheap, like plastic -- is this true?
Can anyone who's seen a T in person chime in?
I read in a couple of threads that the lightweight glass looks/feels cheap, like plastic -- is this true?
Can anyone who's seen a T in person chime in?
03-05-2018, 11:10 AM
#37
The same glass is used on the $300k RS, so cheapness is in the eyes of the beholder. Look up the price on Suncoast if you want a real eye opener.
All new Porsches are expensive, so order a car with options that speak to you. Lots of people would be better off with a standard base Carrera.
All new Porsches are expensive, so order a car with options that speak to you. Lots of people would be better off with a standard base Carrera.
03-05-2018, 11:27 AM
#38
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03-05-2018, 02:57 PM
#39
Drifting
Not at all! As has been said, it is a very cool feature, and shared with the GT2 RS!
I have deleted it on my T, but only because for me, the car will be my daily driver and sole car. Over here in the UK, I feel that I need the heated rear screen in my daily driver.
My T will still have plenty of other cool features, including the removal of sound deadening elsewhere in the car.
03-05-2018, 03:09 PM
#40
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That reminds me...Pete Stout - if you read this - did you ever get a firm answer from Porsche about what other sound deadening was removed?
cheers!
cheers!
03-05-2018, 04:35 PM
#41
Instructor
Marked as 'Confidential Dealer Information - For Internal Authorised Porsche Dealer Only' it makes comment on the option of deleting the lightweight glass.
Of course a heated screen is is the sensible choice but is a 911 a sensible car?
I've chosen to keep LWG; probably a more ridiculous decision than getting the heated glass but so what.
Last edited by Puf n Stuf; 05-18-2018 at 08:46 AM.
03-05-2018, 04:55 PM
#42
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Thread Starter
In another thread from months ago, k997 published the sales crib sheet (nice find k997 - gold star).
Marked as 'Confidential Dealer Information - For Internal Authorised Porsche Dealer Only' it makes comment on the option of deleting the lightweight glass.
Of course a heated screen is is the sensible choice but is a 911 a sensible car?
I've chosen to keep LWG; probably a more ridiculous decision than getting the heated glass but so what.
Marked as 'Confidential Dealer Information - For Internal Authorised Porsche Dealer Only' it makes comment on the option of deleting the lightweight glass.
Of course a heated screen is is the sensible choice but is a 911 a sensible car?
I've chosen to keep LWG; probably a more ridiculous decision than getting the heated glass but so what.
03-05-2018, 10:53 PM
#44
All three versions of the 9A2 offer different experiences.
The "base" delivers a nice responsive engine that will suit both a daily C or weekend T. Conversely, the 450HP unit punches very hard to the red line with great throttle response and on throttle adjustability. The S sits nicely in between. The difference between all three platforms is very noticeable above 3500RPM.
For many, and perhaps most the T/"base" will make a lot of sense.
This is what Porsche do really well e.g. offer a different range of experiences developed from a robust and versatile platform.
(and for those of you that are uncertain - get RAS it in effect extends the wheelbase by around ~ 20 inches, this is transformative in terms of how the car behaves in corners).
The "base" delivers a nice responsive engine that will suit both a daily C or weekend T. Conversely, the 450HP unit punches very hard to the red line with great throttle response and on throttle adjustability. The S sits nicely in between. The difference between all three platforms is very noticeable above 3500RPM.
For many, and perhaps most the T/"base" will make a lot of sense.
This is what Porsche do really well e.g. offer a different range of experiences developed from a robust and versatile platform.
(and for those of you that are uncertain - get RAS it in effect extends the wheelbase by around ~ 20 inches, this is transformative in terms of how the car behaves in corners).
Last edited by RRDnA; 03-05-2018 at 11:18 PM.
03-06-2018, 03:28 PM
#45
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Curious for your take as you live with it and the exhaust system "breaks in" but my take was "nicer, but not night and day (suddenly GT3 or GT4)." And there's nothing wrong with that....
