911T Chrono Package and Rear axle steering ?
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911T Chrono Package and Rear axle steering ?
Configuring my T build (locks at end of month), trying to figure out if I need these. I probably wont track the car but I am going to drive hard, guaranteed.
1. Chrono Package icw track precision app - $320:
" Analog and digital chronograph - a chronometer installed on top of the dashboard can be used for timing laps, and can be configured as a clock when not actively used as a stopwatch.
Porsche Track Precision App functionality (may not be compatible with all mobile devices or service providers)"
I know almost all of the sport chrono functionality is standard on the T : adjustable driveline mounts, sport plus (throttle mapping), and rev match etc. Sport plus may also have a "launch mode"- 4200 rpm rev limiter (even though manuals dont get the "Launch control active" on the dash like PDK). I like the look of the flat dash, but dont wanna lose any ECU/TCU functionality if I don't spec the "Chrono package". Just making sure its just the clock and track app readiness. Anyone have any ideas??
2. Rear axle steering - $2090 ... self explanatory.
Do you really need this with the LSD /driveline mounts/ and SPASM with the base carrera engine? I bought 20' wheels for the winter set, so I should be good for clearance. Worried it might rob some of the 911 driving character if I got it.
1. Chrono Package icw track precision app - $320:
" Analog and digital chronograph - a chronometer installed on top of the dashboard can be used for timing laps, and can be configured as a clock when not actively used as a stopwatch.
Porsche Track Precision App functionality (may not be compatible with all mobile devices or service providers)"
I know almost all of the sport chrono functionality is standard on the T : adjustable driveline mounts, sport plus (throttle mapping), and rev match etc. Sport plus may also have a "launch mode"- 4200 rpm rev limiter (even though manuals dont get the "Launch control active" on the dash like PDK). I like the look of the flat dash, but dont wanna lose any ECU/TCU functionality if I don't spec the "Chrono package". Just making sure its just the clock and track app readiness. Anyone have any ideas??
2. Rear axle steering - $2090 ... self explanatory.
Do you really need this with the LSD /driveline mounts/ and SPASM with the base carrera engine? I bought 20' wheels for the winter set, so I should be good for clearance. Worried it might rob some of the 911 driving character if I got it.
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Well, that is the way I spec’d mine, so yes, not only I would but did
I did a test drive on an S that had it and was hooked on it. It feels so stable and dynamic at the same time, it is hard to describe.
I think that RWS is quite unique in character, and is something you are not able to get with the base Carrera. I added it mostly due to the shorter turn radius, but also adding more stability on highway driving is a plus.
Cheers!
I did a test drive on an S that had it and was hooked on it. It feels so stable and dynamic at the same time, it is hard to describe.
I think that RWS is quite unique in character, and is something you are not able to get with the base Carrera. I added it mostly due to the shorter turn radius, but also adding more stability on highway driving is a plus.
Cheers!
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Well, that is the way I spec’d mine, so yes, not only I would but did
I did a test drive on an S that had it and was hooked on it. It feels so stable and dynamic at the same time, it is hard to describe.
I think that RWS is quite unique in character, and is something you are not able to get with the base Carrera. I added it mostly due to the shorter turn radius, but also adding more stability on highway driving is a plus.
I did a test drive on an S that had it and was hooked on it. It feels so stable and dynamic at the same time, it is hard to describe.
I think that RWS is quite unique in character, and is something you are not able to get with the base Carrera. I added it mostly due to the shorter turn radius, but also adding more stability on highway driving is a plus.
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This is my 4th 911. In no way do I think the RAS has negatively affected the driving character of the car... it has only made it even more agile.
Here's the subsection on low speed behavior of the RAS and the impact on turning radius in the tech docs.
Here's the subsection on low speed behavior of the RAS and the impact on turning radius in the tech docs.
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Heres a tough one... Do you think RAS will help in snow?
Also no one used the term "wart" yet for chrono pack.
Also no one used the term "wart" yet for chrono pack.
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Just for fun, here is a good video of low-speed RAS at work on a Panamera Turbo
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Cool Its like a caterpillar! I dont think I need the narrower turning circle. I would get it for cornering and highway stability. What would push me over the edge was if it helped in snow.
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GT silver is paid option? Ouch.
I can attest to rear axle steer. After driving a '13C4S back to back with my .2 GTS with RAS I could definitely notice the GTS snaking around fast left and right turns on the street.
It's not extremely noticeable like a C63 where it feels like the car has an awful alignment and will oversteer. It's very subtle on high speed turns on the 911.. I haven't tried kicking the rear end out for a drift but I'd guess it would hinder any kind of drifting attempt.
I can attest to rear axle steer. After driving a '13C4S back to back with my .2 GTS with RAS I could definitely notice the GTS snaking around fast left and right turns on the street.
It's not extremely noticeable like a C63 where it feels like the car has an awful alignment and will oversteer. It's very subtle on high speed turns on the 911.. I haven't tried kicking the rear end out for a drift but I'd guess it would hinder any kind of drifting attempt.
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Fortunately with the 991.2 the price of GT Silver dropped from over $3k to seven hundred and some odd.
I can't imagine how RAS would help a lot in snow... but I'll leave that to someone with experience in the snow.
Here is a little more info on the mid-to-higher speed behavior of RAS, just FYI. BTW, I understand the RAS on GT3 models is a bit more aggressive than on the Carrera models.
I can't imagine how RAS would help a lot in snow... but I'll leave that to someone with experience in the snow.
Here is a little more info on the mid-to-higher speed behavior of RAS, just FYI. BTW, I understand the RAS on GT3 models is a bit more aggressive than on the Carrera models.
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Making a strong case. Need to drive with and without RAS back to back.
Still dont know what to do about the clock
Still dont know what to do about the clock