Should I end my dislike for CL Wheels
#16
#17
I don't understand all these center lock hate. I can actually remove the wheels faster with center lock than 5 lugs. If you have helper to hit the brake it is breeze. We don't have spare on these cars anyway I don't see huge problem. See my avatar my wife is unlocking center lock with one finger.
#18
I don't understand all these center lock hate. I can actually remove the wheels faster with center lock than 5 lugs. If you have helper to hit the brake it is breeze. We don't have spare on these cars anyway I don't see huge problem. See my avatar my wife is unlocking center lock with one finger.
#19
I don't see a large torque wrench as a special tool. There is no performance benefit but I think look and uniqueness are worth little more effort. Maybe my experience is different from other owners but for me it's quite fun and actually faster to deal with center locks so far. Only problem is there are not many places can deal with these wheels. I have a torque multiflier and I just take it in the frunk for a long trip.
#20
I too bought the Precision Instruments 3/4" Torque Wrench and Breaker Bar combo. Easy peasy to be honest. I broke the torque with the car on the ground and had my son (with the engine running) press the brake when re-torquing the front ones. Apply a little bit of Aluminum Grease on latex gloves and voila.
#21
Rocky Mountain High
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I bought a brake pedal depressor on Amazon. I suppose that’s a step that I didn’t have to do with five lug wheels, but it’s no big deal. It makes the wheel change much easier.
#23
Pro
Thread Starter
Always wanted an Air gun to change tires, heck I would just time myself in my garage on how fast I could change all tires and even get my family onboard and be like pit crew on changing tires super fast for fun. That fun is reserved for cup cars only.
Street legal cars get the cosmetic version only
Just like in this commercial - I Do Not see Torque Wrench at all - I want these tools used on this GT3RS
#24
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No way an average pit crew human is strong enough to counter 453 ft lbs of torque. This is BS. The tool that the factory use has a protruding arm that catches one of the spokes to provide the counter to the torque entry. That's what I want!!!!
#25
Intermediate
given my preferred dealer is 308 miles away and it doesn't have five lugs. this would be mine if i was in the market...https://isringhausen.porschedealer.c...tallic+1546993
#26
Race Director
I had a 2012 GTS with CL’s...I’m a track guy and due to all the steps and that dang Center lock grease that must be used each time...I learned to really HATE these street center locks. My track friends would swap 4 regular 5 lug wheels in the time it took me to barley finish 2 Center locks. Just an aweful experience.
#28
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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and its cordless.
#29
I've had a GTS and a GT3 with CL wheels. Hate them! To change tires:
Pop off cap. Jack car. Put someone behind wheel, stomp on brake. Use monster bar to break wheel loose. Remove wheel, change tire. Lube up the splines (heavily) and cones (lightly) with the world's messiest grease. Install wheel. Torque to 440 (IIRC) lb-ft. Back off torque wrench 90 degrees, then repeat. Fiddle with hub core until it pops out flush with end of splines. Good luck getting that to work on first try! Reinstall cap.
Whew. One wheel done, 3 more to go. What a freaking pain. I suppose if car was street only, and tiers last a long time, fine. If you track, and go through oh, 3 or 4 sets of tires in a year - that's a LOT of hassle. Not to mention that you have to stand over the guy at the tire shop to make he does it right.
And don't count on the dealer getting it right. On more than one occasion, direct from the dealer, I've discovered the hub core wasn't fully extended and so the wheel was NOT properly attached. I always check at the track to make sure they're all in the proper position.
Or - five bolts. A normal torque wrench will work. Recheck torque at track. WINNER. WINNER. WINNER.
DMoore
'15 GT3
registered CL hater
Pop off cap. Jack car. Put someone behind wheel, stomp on brake. Use monster bar to break wheel loose. Remove wheel, change tire. Lube up the splines (heavily) and cones (lightly) with the world's messiest grease. Install wheel. Torque to 440 (IIRC) lb-ft. Back off torque wrench 90 degrees, then repeat. Fiddle with hub core until it pops out flush with end of splines. Good luck getting that to work on first try! Reinstall cap.
Whew. One wheel done, 3 more to go. What a freaking pain. I suppose if car was street only, and tiers last a long time, fine. If you track, and go through oh, 3 or 4 sets of tires in a year - that's a LOT of hassle. Not to mention that you have to stand over the guy at the tire shop to make he does it right.
And don't count on the dealer getting it right. On more than one occasion, direct from the dealer, I've discovered the hub core wasn't fully extended and so the wheel was NOT properly attached. I always check at the track to make sure they're all in the proper position.
Or - five bolts. A normal torque wrench will work. Recheck torque at track. WINNER. WINNER. WINNER.
DMoore
'15 GT3
registered CL hater