If burning out and a sloppy chassis is more fun for your real world use, then the M4 will be more fun. If a precision chassis and backroad driving is your M.O, then the Carrera. If you want drama above all while not giving up performance, you’ll have to go GT3, if you want more drama while being willing to sacrifice some performance (unless you go GTS or well equipped S) vs a base .2 and are ok with getting a slightly used car, you’ll have to go 991.1 or 997.2. As well, you’ll have to go E92 to get drama out of the BMW. To me, getting sideaways is only so fun for so long (and gets expensive). So imo is served as sort of a short term drama.

I’m not a huge fan of the M4, but I get where he’s coming from. Replace the M4 with a 1M or even E46 M3 and I’d be tempted to agree depending on how and where you drive.

The 991 is a massively competent, hugely composed car. Push on the street and it begs for more. Largely unperturbed even over bumps, forgiving and progressive when you eventually find the grip limit, great damping and body control. On any great curvy road from the Swiss Alps to the sierra foothills there’s no question the 911 would get the nod every time.

My daily commute unfortunately looks nothing like the Alps. It’s got a couple off-ramps which look a little like the corkscrew if I squint, but otherwise I get freeways and intersections of various shapes and sizes. Unless I’m willing to absolutely rail some of those overpasses and off ramps it can be hard to get a modern Carrera into a truly engaging, talkative mood.

My 1M, on the other hand, was in many ways the opposite. Composed wasn’t in its vocabulary. Try to take a cloverleaf at full 911 speed and it’d be looking to eat the nearest guardrail. With the traction control off the rear was liable to lurch sideways at the slightest provocation. All of which sounds pretty awful, and would be (relatively) in full attack mode on that road in the Alps. On my commute, on the other hand, it was brilliant. I put 75k miles on that car with the traction control off; I wish it could have recorded how many of them were sideways. It was always good for an arm full of opposite lock and a big smile at a clear intersection. I’d swear I drove complete autocross courses sideways and entirely out of shape. I lost all desire to rail the overpass at 125 mph (because let’s face it, it would kill you) and instead found all kinds of kicks on regular streets at 45 mph and below. The combination of abrupt boost, ludicrously low grip and a rear diff that locked like a light switch turns out to be an exceedingly good recipe for having highly juvenile fun on demand. Tricky enough to keep you fully engaged and on your toes, controllable enough that you weren’t guaranteed to stuff it (one you put the time in to properly learn it).

As a DD (in my area) I preferred my 1M to my GT4. I might even have preferred my E46 M3 as well, though that’s a tougher call. The M4 isn’t my cup of tea so that wouldn’t get the nod, but I understand where your poster above is coming from. I’m even with him to a certain extent- given the right clear road I’ll take the Carrera every time, but on the wrong roads a car that’s also pretty wrong can become just right.

Harvey?