Porsche Not Manufacturing Gas Cars for 3 months and help with targa colors!
 

My UK dealer told me yesterday due to wanting to focus on emissions, which have got their sister companies in trouble, porsche will not be making gas cars between april and september, only diesel and hybrids. So your orders may be moved forward or slightly altered. I ordered a Targa GTS in december and I am now being pushed into a 4S targa and with possible march delivery, when it should have been about June / July.
Moving on..... help please. I could go for a black targa, silver bar, silver wheels, classic, but want something that stands out a little more.... so please read below..

Ive never owned a 911 before and to be honest I prefer the size and style of the early 1970's, but Im not ready to do a classic weekend under the car thing and the new 911 is not exactly a bad looking car, just a bit big and GT ish. However, the Targa is very good looking and so I have decided on it, although tempted by the new AM vantage, but maybe best wait until they iron out early issues they may well have with this very new car. So I accept the targa is not going to give me the same thrills as my caterham, very few cars will, not even a Cayman GT4, but anyway.. on to the point.

These are my two build options and I would appreciate opinions on Color Combos, but preferably from those having seen the actual colors in person as they look quite different than on the configurator. I guess I am looking mainly at the color of the roof and interior. I think a blue roof goes well with a blue/grey exterior and a brown roof goes well with crayon, which is almost a creamy extremely light brown color. In terms of the options, well thats just personal choice and wont effect me too much. I was thinking distance control, but as someone once said, for less than about 15k miles a year, I dont think its worth it and dont think it will interest on resale that much. Rear wheel steering is another thing that I thought of, but for a targa, hardly necessary and the turning circle at low speeds is reduced only very slightly, maybe 7%. Sports exhaust on a targa, again a luxury I wont use much, I have enough exhaust noise on the caterham with no radio.

in terms of the roof, yes black is a safe bet, but a bit boring.... I just wonder how many would be put off by these combinations, I think they go well....

And for your interest, in the UK< there are no discounts to be had at all, they can sell double the cars they actually do.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PJ3P6JQ9 . - blue
http://www.porsche-code.com/PJPFN4E6 . - crayon

thanks!

I haven't heard anyone else mention anything about this. I really doubt Porsche would stop production like that (especially across the board on all models).

I can only say what I was told by the sales manager. In the UK at least, Macans sell more in deisel than gasoline (petrol) and Macans outsell 911's by 4 to 1, so its not a disaster for them, but clearly its not ideal. Cayanne are to release a new one very soon, so well...
I can also say my delivery has been brought forward, lets see next week if others see the same thing......

April - September is more than 3 months

I know there is something going on with factory construction regarding Mission E. I'm sure that will disrupt something

they are bringing my delivery forward, so works for me. they are not focusing on deisel, they are trying to avoid billion dollar fines for emissions...
anyway, we will see....

I prefer your blue setup. Car, top and interior colors all well coordinated. Very sharp!!

Maybe Porsche 991-2 will have Ad-Blue (Otto-Blue) as a emission system. but will it fit in a 911? Tank in front?
I Think MB and BMW will also have Ad-Blue on all cars.
Maybe this is one reason for delayed order...
BR

thanks for the opinion Al fresco, you just dont see many with blue roofs.... was not sure if it was a no no...

There are GT3 builds scheduled through the summer that were confirmed by Porsche in the last week, so this cannot be true.

I inquired about a Carrera T for a friend. My local dealership has two available (locked) incoming due in April . I was told that " expect new cars to be held at the port" and my guess that refers any new variant . Emissions tend to be an overall focus . The VW scandal raised the issue in the US and in the EU it seems more dependent on regional policies.
Just as the new cayenne was supposed to arrive but hasn't I think the 992 wont be here for awhile either .

I was told reduced 911's due to construction or reconstruction of factory to build Mission E.
Eric

Not disputing what the OP was told but in the 4 months since I have ordered my car and have been waiting and spending to much time on the forum I have heard:

1. Turbo plant manufacturer fire - big delays on 911 production
2. Assembly line workers going on strike
3. European regs changing over the summer so the bulk of the cars are going to Europe before then so they can get in before the law changes.
4. Now no gas cars built for 3 months.

Whether any of these are true I have no idea. Ordered and waited for quite a few cars from different manufacturers over the years and never once has anything popped up during the process that has given me concern over when my car will arrive.
Maybe Porsche marketing just works extra hard to try and artificially drive up demand or something. Maybe all of us on the forum are just way to crazy worrying about our cars. Dont even get me started on what goes on over on the GT3 board with all the ADM talk and availability. haha

This is most likely the truth. They did the same back in '12. Besides, the factories are different. The Stuttgart plant is probably going to be refurbished for the new line. That, in addition to training and organizing, should take about 3-4 months. The Leipzig plant keeps on going with the 4 doors.
I would wait, even to shop for a barely used 991.2 once the 992 comes out.

You forgot to list the unknown parts shortage affecting only the GTS that came up in November. :evilgrin:

Yes thanks. I knew there was more but couldn't remember everything!!

This is the same issue as Number 1.

Wow, love the blue car -- and the blue top really sets it off. I have a 991.1 in Midnight Blue with a blue top, but your body color really pops with that top. Mine just sort of "blends in" better than with a black top.

I saw a chalk, or crayon, targa last week at the Woodland Hills, CA dealer and it looked spectacular. Way, way nicer than the car in the configurator. Just classy and badass at the same time - which is not easy. Chalk and graphite blue are my top choices. If I could pick between the two I would have.

thanks.... Im now actually reconsidering, not the color combo, but whether to wait for a 992 as I doubt I will buy another car for such a price in the next 5 10 years, may as well get the latest shape....

thanks!

I have a feeling that if you ordered a car and it "locked" then it's going to get here on time .

Posted this reply earlier but in the wrong thread:banghead:

Remember seeing this piece with someone from PAG after the whole BREXIT thing passed.
Said individual stated that since GB was no longer going to be part of the EU, PAG would not be able to keep the same arrangements in place as it pertained to financials and orders... as it would negate the purpose of the EU benefits to those whom have elected to be members.
I'm paraphrasing but it was clear, there we're going to be negative consequences.
It was reported that this disposition was echo'd by the by other German car Manufactures.

I think the other BREXIT shoe has finally dropped...

And another... still thinking I was discussing it in this thread :rolleyes:
But thought I'd post it up here as the OP might be interested in this as it relates directly to his situation.

Having done TV deals in Germany, they are very, very thorough.
Nothing open to interpretation, no loose ends or ambiguity....
You get exactly what was agreed upon, I love doing business with German Co's.
There is a flip side though, they do not like changes... probably because there is little imagination or creativity as it pertains to work-arounds.

Which reminds me of something that was mentioned in this interview... the interviewee stated that PAG would have to reduce the amount of allocations to GB as those we're part of the EU trade agreement (he stated a very high % of current cars produce go to GB but I forget the number).
Clearly unhappy about the impact it would have on PAG sales, he also stated that the implementation of these changes would take place on PAG's timetable regardless of when the actual GB EU withdraw would take place.

I think what we are seeing here is the resulting German expedited efficiency regarding the implementation of said changes.
Or perhaps it's just a "friendly reminder" of all the work the Brits are causing the Germans. ;)

Regardless, I believe this is just the beginning, we will see more going forward from other countries and industries.
Time will tell.

+1 on this. Very nice