STG and the smart money guys - 991.1 GTS Values
01-13-2018, 07:54 PM
#16
Three Wheelin'
16' RS 10k miles 216 msrp 212 on deal.
Backed out because my local dealer that got me my PTS GT4 said they would get me .2 RS at sticker.
Last edited by Buteo; 01-13-2018 at 08:24 PM.
01-13-2018, 08:05 PM
#17
STG - you always have the scoop. Why do you think the GTS market will soften?
The impact seemed minor - low speed tboned by someone making a left turn and not looking. It was a love tap that caused 23K in damage. The soft aluminum crumpled underneath.
MSRP was around 138K if recall. It has 17500 miles on it right now.
The impact seemed minor - low speed tboned by someone making a left turn and not looking. It was a love tap that caused 23K in damage. The soft aluminum crumpled underneath.
MSRP was around 138K if recall. It has 17500 miles on it right now.
01-13-2018, 08:47 PM
#18
Just goes to show that equipment doesn't mean a whole lot here (although we'd like to think it). PCCBs, ducktails, etc don't mean a whole lot in the second hand market. Yeah, there are some that are willing to pay extra for them, but most dealers just add or remove a fraction of the retail price for these options or lack thereof.
01-13-2018, 08:56 PM
#19
Three Wheelin'
Just goes to show that equipment doesn't mean a whole lot here (although we'd like to think it). PCCBs, ducktails, etc don't mean a whole lot in the second hand market. Yeah, there are some that are willing to pay extra for them, but most dealers just add or remove a fraction of the retail price for these options or lack thereof.
01-14-2018, 08:09 AM
#20
Pro
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Just goes to show that equipment doesn't mean a whole lot here (although we'd like to think it). PCCBs, ducktails, etc don't mean a whole lot in the second hand market. Yeah, there are some that are willing to pay extra for them, but most dealers just add or remove a fraction of the retail price for these options or lack thereof.
Just goes to show that equipment doesn't mean a whole lot here (although we'd like to think it). PCCBs, ducktails, etc don't mean a whole lot in the second hand market. Yeah, there are some that are willing to pay extra for them, but most dealers just add or remove a fraction of the retail price for these options or lack thereof.
OP: Have you considered just trading in the damaged goods and buying new? Getting a new Porsche exactly the way you want it is worth something, and may be a reasonable alternative if you are going for MT, have specific color requirements and don't want a lot of bling options. A relative stripper 991.2 T would have the GTS options built into the MRSP, is a relative bargain even at MRSP and will probably retain its value reasonably well. Of course you'd have to be able to put up with the serious hit in the sound department (NA to turbo...)
01-14-2018, 09:04 AM
#21
Drifting
For point of reference I traded a 15 GTS (136k MSRP) with 12k miles and no accident in June to a small dealership in Knoxville. First offer was 95, got them up to 100k. They listed it for 114,900. It sat for several weeks then disappeared. Don';t know what it sold for.
01-14-2018, 02:08 PM
#22
Dump it
And be thankful you leased instead of.purchasing. I do not think I'm alone when I say I would never own any vehicle that suffered 23k in damage (at any price). Unless you are going to track, the MT makes a 911 suck a great experience why settle ?
01-14-2018, 03:00 PM
#23
Funny how dealers will say options mean little when you trade in your car, but when you want to buy a newer used car the dealer to point to the options to justify their high asking price...
OP: Have you considered just trading in the damaged goods and buying new? Getting a new Porsche exactly the way you want it is worth something, and may be a reasonable alternative if you are going for MT, have specific color requirements and don't want a lot of bling options. A relative stripper 991.2 T would have the GTS options built into the MRSP, is a relative bargain even at MRSP and will probably retain its value reasonably well. Of course you'd have to be able to put up with the serious hit in the sound department (NA to turbo...)
OP: Have you considered just trading in the damaged goods and buying new? Getting a new Porsche exactly the way you want it is worth something, and may be a reasonable alternative if you are going for MT, have specific color requirements and don't want a lot of bling options. A relative stripper 991.2 T would have the GTS options built into the MRSP, is a relative bargain even at MRSP and will probably retain its value reasonably well. Of course you'd have to be able to put up with the serious hit in the sound department (NA to turbo...)
01-14-2018, 03:01 PM
#24
For point of reference I traded a 15 GTS (136k MSRP) with 12k miles and no accident in June to a small dealership in Knoxville. First offer was 95, got them up to 100k. They listed it for 114,900. It sat for several weeks then disappeared. Don';t know what it sold for.
01-14-2018, 03:27 PM
#25
I predict slow but steady depreciation over the next 5-10 years. After that the curve may reverse slightly given the novelty of the last NA engine in a non-GT 911. Time is our friend here. But I do not think we'll ever see "investment" level appreciation or returns. Enjoy what you've got, drive defensively, and focus on the smiles per hour not financial gains or returns...
01-14-2018, 03:29 PM
#26
Three Wheelin'
I predict slow but steady depreciation over the next 5-10 years. After that the curve may reverse slightly given the novelty of the last NA engine in a non-GT 911. Time is our friend here. But I do not think we'll ever see "investment" level appreciation or returns. Enjoy what you've got, drive defensively, and focus on the smiles per hour not financial gains or returns...
01-14-2018, 03:39 PM
#27
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01-14-2018, 04:38 PM
#29
Race Director
Originally Posted by Buteo
Agreed, which is why I went to STG's Hot for sale thread when I was looking to buy a GTS. Saved me 50k or so.
How many millions of $$$'s in depreciation has HFS saved buyers??
01-14-2018, 11:10 PM
#30
Rennlist Member
About 6 months ago just messing around with my dealer asked what a trade in would be on my '15 GTS (about $142K msrp) with 10k miles, basically perfect. Came back with like $103~$104,.....which in all honesty was quite fair IMO. They'd probably put it on the lot CPO for $115 or something around that.
Just goes to show that equipment doesn't mean a whole lot here (although we'd like to think it). PCCBs, ducktails, etc don't mean a whole lot in the second hand market. Yeah, there are some that are willing to pay extra for them, but most dealers just add or remove a fraction of the retail price for these options or lack thereof.
Just goes to show that equipment doesn't mean a whole lot here (although we'd like to think it). PCCBs, ducktails, etc don't mean a whole lot in the second hand market. Yeah, there are some that are willing to pay extra for them, but most dealers just add or remove a fraction of the retail price for these options or lack thereof.