PCCBs on a Carrera T - Yes or No?
01-12-2018, 11:27 AM
#17
Rocky Mountain High
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No problem.
I will say that I’ve had the stone issue with both cars, on the front wheels. It’s not really a big deal. When it happens, you hear a hideous scraping noise for a few seconds, and then it stops. It leaves a scratch in the barrel of the wheel, close to the rotor. It also tends to scratch the caliper. None of these scratches are visible unless the wheels are off of the car. It’s one of those things that happens with PCCBs. I don’t worry about it. Nobody sees it. If this is something that will bother you, then steel brakes might be a better option for you.
I will say that I’ve had the stone issue with both cars, on the front wheels. It’s not really a big deal. When it happens, you hear a hideous scraping noise for a few seconds, and then it stops. It leaves a scratch in the barrel of the wheel, close to the rotor. It also tends to scratch the caliper. None of these scratches are visible unless the wheels are off of the car. It’s one of those things that happens with PCCBs. I don’t worry about it. Nobody sees it. If this is something that will bother you, then steel brakes might be a better option for you.
01-12-2018, 11:39 AM
#18
Drifting
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Thanks again, Dennis. If you guys can live with it, and order PCCBs on your next Porsche, then I will certainly live with it too. 
It sounds from folks who actually have PCCBs on their 991s that the feedback is overwhelmingly positive!
It sounds from folks who actually have PCCBs on their 991s that the feedback is overwhelmingly positive!
01-12-2018, 11:41 AM
#19
Drifting
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01-12-2018, 11:43 AM
#20
Drifting
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Yet more positive feedback on the PCCBs! Thank you, Hurricane.
01-12-2018, 11:49 AM
#21
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First set of PCCB's for me too is on my current Turbo S. Have had 12 other Porsche's all with steel. I agree with Gunner the brake feel on the PCCB's once you get used to them is fantastic. The no brake dust issue is secondary but also great.
01-12-2018, 12:01 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
I have decided that if I order a T I will for sure get it with PCCBs (and LWBs). I think that car needs/deserves them. If I order a Base or an S then no.
Full disclosure: My opinion means nothing.
Full disclosure: My opinion means nothing.
01-12-2018, 12:16 PM
#23
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The Carrera T is the lightest and least powerful Porsche ever to offer the full-size (410mm) PCCB's. They'll last forever with your use (and would even last if you decide to put the car on a track). I happen to like overkill brakes (have 930 Turbo 4-piston Brembos on my 1,890 pound 911 - but that was for track use).
The only reason I would skip PCCB's is the fear of having to replace the rotors (over $20k) - that's why I skipped them on my GT3. This should not be a concern for you. Sounds like they would perfectly fit the bill for you
The only reason I would skip PCCB's is the fear of having to replace the rotors (over $20k) - that's why I skipped them on my GT3. This should not be a concern for you. Sounds like they would perfectly fit the bill for you
01-12-2018, 12:18 PM
#24
Drifting
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More great feedback! Thank you, Penn4S! Looks like I'll be adding PCCBs to my Carrera T order on Monday!
01-12-2018, 12:21 PM
#25
Drifting
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The Carrera T is the lightest and least powerful Porsche ever to offer the full-size (410mm) PCCB's. They'll last forever with your use (and would even last if you decide to put the car on a track). I happen to like overkill brakes (have 930 Turbo 4-piston Brembos on my 1,890 pound 911 - but that was for track use).
The only reason I would skip PCCB's is the fear of having to replace the rotors (over $20k) - that's why I skipped them on my GT3. This should not be a concern for you. Sounds like they would perfectly fit the bill for you
The only reason I would skip PCCB's is the fear of having to replace the rotors (over $20k) - that's why I skipped them on my GT3. This should not be a concern for you. Sounds like they would perfectly fit the bill for you
Another vote for PCCBs then!
01-12-2018, 12:27 PM
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01-12-2018, 12:46 PM
#28
Drifting
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I saw a Nick Murray video where he said it was a shame that they didn't put the 991.2 C2S brakes on the Carrera T.
01-12-2018, 12:54 PM
#29
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My $0.02 - I didn't check the box for PCCBs on my T order - for some of the reasons already stated (cost to replace, noise, etc). We all have to keep in mind that the steel brakes on the T are by most standards great! They are certainly better than what was on my base 993, and that car went 22 years with a single rotor change on 100% street use (albeit spirited) -- I never once ever had cause to doubt the brakes on my 993 -- and it's actually about the same mass as the T.
For a street car, PCCBs are an expensive cosmetic option. I don't fault anyone for choosing them - as many of the "options" on our cars are cosmetic. It's part of how we individualize them to ourselves.
I also suspect we'll see new tech in the 992. Has anyone read about the PSCBs on the Cayenne:
https://blog.caranddriver.com/in-dep...coated-brakes/
I'm a mechanical engineer by training...these are highly likely to be compatible with the base brakes on the T (and the PCCBs) with a rotor & pad swap in the future.
sean
For a street car, PCCBs are an expensive cosmetic option. I don't fault anyone for choosing them - as many of the "options" on our cars are cosmetic. It's part of how we individualize them to ourselves.
I also suspect we'll see new tech in the 992. Has anyone read about the PSCBs on the Cayenne:
https://blog.caranddriver.com/in-dep...coated-brakes/
I'm a mechanical engineer by training...these are highly likely to be compatible with the base brakes on the T (and the PCCBs) with a rotor & pad swap in the future.
sean
01-12-2018, 01:21 PM
#30
Three Wheelin'
I think the biggest question, since all P-car brakes are superlative, is:
1) will the PCCB be streetable, quiet, and offer comfortable feel
2) will they be durable and not chip during regular use
3) how long will they last?
My attraction to PCCB, is that for a small initial cost, they can give you a dust-free, lifetime set of brakes, that also is quite a bit lighter and can offer better initial impulse braking. Also, for some reason, the standard brakes look a little puny inside the rims. It's a shallow comment, but it does annoy me after seeing them side by side!
My fear of PCCB, is that they will be like the M3 system, which is uneven in modulation, noisy as hell, chip frequently at a cost of $15,000, and so on.
1) will the PCCB be streetable, quiet, and offer comfortable feel
2) will they be durable and not chip during regular use
3) how long will they last?
My attraction to PCCB, is that for a small initial cost, they can give you a dust-free, lifetime set of brakes, that also is quite a bit lighter and can offer better initial impulse braking. Also, for some reason, the standard brakes look a little puny inside the rims. It's a shallow comment, but it does annoy me after seeing them side by side!
My fear of PCCB, is that they will be like the M3 system, which is uneven in modulation, noisy as hell, chip frequently at a cost of $15,000, and so on.
Besides, they’ll match your exterior color perfectly
