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shammerman 01-12-2018 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Wing Commander (Post 14726280)
You are a mind reader! :) Thank you.

My only concern is to hear from drivers in a 991 (ideally 991.2) as to any issues they've had with PCCBs.

Cheers, Simon

i have them on my Targa (991.1...) and have had no issues what so ever. Love the lack of dust and the incredible stopping power.

Wing Commander 01-12-2018 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway (Post 14727404)
If you can deal with this kind of damage, then go for the PCCB's. If not, then at least consider it.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1037...t-so-good.html


Thanks, Gordon. That was a very good thread to read.

Yes, I could live with that, especially having been forewarned by the good folks on here!

Cheers,

Simon

Wing Commander 01-12-2018 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by shammerman (Post 14727413)


i have them on my Targa (991.1...) and have had no issues what so ever. Love the lack of dust and the incredible stopping power.


Thanks, I am edging nearer & nearer to being 100% on ticking the box! :thumbup:

fjpdds 01-12-2018 08:03 PM

39,000 miles with them on my 991.1 targa 4S. Love them,... a 911 'must have' for me.

Wing Commander 01-12-2018 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by fjpdds (Post 14727538)
39,000 miles with them on my 991.1 targa 4S. Love them,... a 911 'must have' for me.


That's great! Any issues or negatives at all, just to get a balanced view, before I commit £6k for the PCCBs? Damage from trapped stones etc?

:)

Cheers,

Simon

Ticket Target 01-12-2018 08:20 PM

I have them on my 2018 GTS, and I will differ with people here. They do make a difference on the street. When you travel over a bump or a rough spot, the recovery is much quicker and the car gets less unsettled. I assume due to do lower unsprung weight.

Wing Commander 01-12-2018 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ticket Target (Post 14727574)
I have them on my 2018 GTS, and I will differ with people here. They do make a difference on the street. When you travel over a bump or a rough spot, the recovery is much quicker and the car gets less unsettled. I assume due to do lower unsprung weight.


Great - thank you! Another vote for PCCBs! :thumbup:

Cheers,

Simon

ENCT 01-12-2018 08:56 PM

I have them and agree with the get them camp. Feel great, look great, no noise, and no dust.
Eric

flickroll 01-12-2018 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway (Post 14727404)
If you can deal with this kind of damage, then go for the PCCB's. If not, then at least consider it.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1037...t-so-good.html

I initiated that post and in <250 miles both the left and right side caliper and wheel have sustained damage due to small stones getting trapped between the caliper and wheel. This is on a 991.2 which has a 410mm rotor diameter, much larger than 991.1’s. There is less than 6mm clearance between the wheel and caliper. I have ordered a set of Forgeline wheels which will more than double that clearance and I hope will solve the problem. I really like the PCCB performance and lack of brake dust. The clearance issue and resulting caliper/wheel damage is a bummer however. I imagine in 10,000 miles the wheels in particular will be a scaped up mess. Because of the minimal clearance it is very difficult to see the caliper damage.




flickroll 01-12-2018 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Wing Commander (Post 14726820)



Thanks, TorqueChap! :)

Someone has pointed out that the PCCB calipers are not Racing Yellow, but Sulphur Yellow (?) but it's close enough for me! ;)

Cheers,

Simon

PCCB’s are Speed Yellow.

8enny8lack 01-13-2018 12:10 AM

If you can, drive both at a Porsche experience, or see if anyone on here lives near you. I drove cars with steel or PCCB, and when I ordered my car, I felt good about the PCCBs, and am going in eyes wide open. It's definitely a personal choice though- those steel ones do the job, but I fully appreciate the initial bite of the carbons. But I don't usually drive for comfort, and I REALLY don't like brake fade...

incidentally, a couple trips to PEC cured me of my desire to get a manual- I love rowing my own, but when you are REALLY hustling through the turns, it left me able to just concentrate on apexes and weight transfer more.

Wing Commander 01-13-2018 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by ENCT (Post 14727636)
I have them and agree with the get them camp. Feel great, look great, no noise, and no dust.
Eric


Great - thank you, Eric!

Cheers,

Simon

Wing Commander 01-13-2018 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by flickroll (Post 14727696)
I initiated that post and in <250 miles both the left and right side caliper and wheel have sustained damage due to small stones getting trapped between the caliper and wheel. This is on a 991.2 which has a 410mm rotor diameter, much larger than 991.1’s. There is less than 6mm clearance between the wheel and caliper. I have ordered a set of Forgeline wheels which will more than double that clearance and I hope will solve the problem. I really like the PCCB performance and lack of brake dust. The clearance issue and resulting caliper/wheel damage is a bummer however. I imagine in 10,000 miles the wheels in particular will be a scaped up mess. Because of the minimal clearance it is very difficult to see the caliper damage.

Thanks, flickroll. Sounds like you were really unlucky getting that damage in your first 40 miles. I am comforted by the fact that the damage inflicted is virtually invisible until you get the wheels off. Over the last few days I have accumulated a lot of feedback about PCCBs, mostly thanks to this forum. Most is very positive about PCCBs, from those who have them.

Out of interest, would you spec them on your next Porsche? And is the area/terrain in which you drive especially prone to picking up these small stones?

Cheers,

Simon

Wing Commander 01-13-2018 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by flickroll (Post 14727709)
PCCB’s are Speed Yellow.

Thanks again! You learn something new every day! :)

I look forward to hearing/seeing how you get on with the new wheels that you've ordered.

Cheers,

Simon

Wing Commander 01-13-2018 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by 8enny8lack (Post 14727905)
If you can, drive both at a Porsche experience, or see if anyone on here lives near you. I drove cars with steel or PCCB, and when I ordered my car, I felt good about the PCCBs, and am going in eyes wide open. It's definitely a personal choice though- those steel ones do the job, but I fully appreciate the initial bite of the carbons. But I don't usually drive for comfort, and I REALLY don't like brake fade...

incidentally, a couple trips to PEC cured me of my desire to get a manual- I love rowing my own, but when you are REALLY hustling through the turns, it left me able to just concentrate on apexes and weight transfer more.

Thanks, 8enny8lack.

My trip to the PEC in Silverstone will definitely be after my spec is locked down. To be honest, over the last few days I've accumulated tons of invaluable feedback, both from the US (Rennlist) and the UK (Porsche Club Great Britain and Macan Forum). I'm now 99% going to tick that box, with a balanced view of the pros & cons from Porsche enthusiasts.

Yep, I have heard that PDK results in slightly quicker driving and is recommended for track work/racing. I've had PDK in my Macan, 991.1 and Panamera 4. I always drove a manual before I discovered Porsches, and I have driven a 991.2 with manual transmission, although they are quite rare over here.

I definitely have my eyes open to the fact that there are arguments both for & against both the manual box and the PCCBs.

Cheers,

Simon


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