limegreen

Selo

Yep, a simple on-off switch would have been fine. I can see the practical application of turning it on. Perhaps someone at the track would like to practice only hitting the apices, or Trail braking, etcetera, and not have to worry about heel-toeing. This is just a case where Porsche got too fancy for their own britches, tying it to modes and all. They got it confused with pdk, which people want to think and anticipate for them. When people order a manual transmission, they specifically don't want the car to think and decide for them.

Tangerine

To me this is one of the strangest changes from 991.1 to .2. I think the .1 is perfect--sport without rev matching (but you get better throttle response etc) and rev matching in sport+. The best would be a way to configure it, or a button, but whatever I think the .1 way makes the most sense. If you really do want max performance then you should be using rev matching.

I'd be super annoyed to not be able to get the throttle response of sport without having rev matching.

evilfij

subshooter

Sorry. I didn't intend to be inflammatory and my comment was not directed at you. I should have put a ducking emoji after it since it was tongue in cheek. The point is that most Porsche drivers (and all drivers) are driving automatics, not manuals. Of the small number who do drive manuals, they are not heel and toeing which you really only need for performance driving any way. Granted polls on rennlist over inflate the number of manual and heel and toe drivers because it is an enthusiast forum.

I can agree with your points that rev matching should be selectable to satisfy all drivers. It seems simple enough to do.

911-TOUR

Well that's disappointing.

911boy

+1!!!!!!!!!!!! Might as well get PDK

stout

Been mulling this, and skipped Sport Chrono on my .2 Carrera because I don't care for the dash top clock and because I just about never used the auto-blipper in my GT4 (but liked that it was there for when my better half, who wears size 8.5 womens shoes, wanted to drive the car). Patrick Long also preferred it on when he tested the car at Thermal. Skipping the Sport Chrono option avoids the issue, of course, but the auto-blipper is a nice feature to have even if you don't use it (I agree with all of the reasoning above).

The thing I'm missing is neither that nor the clock—but I wish there had been a way to get the active engine mounts, as they improve both the handling and the ride quality. And I now wish I had them. I sometimes wonder if there is a way to add the hardware and tie them to the Sport button.

Were I to do it over again, I might have ordered Sport Chrono to get the engine mounts. But then you're stuck with the auto-blipper...which should really be a standalone button on the dash separate from Sport, Sport Plus, and PSM.

911boy

I disagree. Matching revs and heel and toeing are two different things. I've driven MT for 42 years and still do both. I match revs on every single downshift and heel and toe on off ramps. I think there are still a few of us left that like to match ourselves.

Selo

Absolutely. Matching revs is the first part of the equation, the easy part. Heel toeing is the second half of the equation.

subshooter

Huh? Re-read my statement and then yours. Of course they are different things and I did not say otherwise. I'm not sure what point you are disagreeing with me on. I rev match without heel and toe in normal driving like many manual drivers. Do you really think the only way to match revs is to use your heel and toe? The larger point is that very few people do heel and toe anymore. Very few people did it before auto rev matching anyway. It's dead like the engine crank handle. Fact. Sorry.

And if you don't like rev matching, turn PSM off and you wont have it in any mode. Purist don't like all those safety nannies anyway right?

911boy

Wow. Calm down. I'm suggesting that more people (MT drivers) match revs and or H&T than you think. Sheesh.

stout

By this do you mean true "heel-toe," as in actual use of heel and toe, and not sides of the foot while rotating the foot on its heel to see the brake and gas at the same time? I tend to lump all versions of simultaneously manipulating the brake and throttle with one foot into "heel-toe" as suspect most others do, too. And I'm not sure that it's dead if thousands (tens of thousands? hundreds of thousands?) of drivers are doing it...

911boy

Thank you...........
Thats what i do.

subshooter

Yes, I did mean all version of simultaneous gas and brake action. However, some drivers who rev match just blip the throttle without braking if they are doing normal street driving and don't need to be braking hard. Most don't rev match at all. For reference, 5% of all new cars are sold as manuals (all cars not just Porsches). https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...s-disappearing. Even so, the overwhelming majority of new Porsches are pdk and not manuals, so we are talking about a very small subset to begin with.

Of those manual drivers, how many are braking/throttle blipping simultaneously. Let's say 10% (I doubt it is that high). That means that 10% of 5% is .5% of new cars are using heel and toe (or rolling your foot)...and it is no where near that high.

But to get back to the OP's thread, he seemed to be concerned about the "mandatory" rev matching in a "driver's car" like a 911T. Many of the purist don't like all the safety nannies either. So just turn off PSM and rev matching is disabled. Do all the heel and toe that you want in all modes.