Nick Murray drops a new video on YouTube. Tuned .2 vs stock .2
12-25-2017, 01:48 AM
#46
12-25-2017, 03:19 AM
#47
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I really love my 996 Turbo but I'm pretty sure a 2017 991.2 base or lightly optioned S will be my next 911. Off 2-year lease cars should start hitting resale in another few months...
Hopefully everyone will still be bitching and moaning about how Porsche ruined the 911 by putting turbo engines in the 991.2 and they will be selling at great prices. ;-)
And oh yes... It will have a tune.
Hopefully everyone will still be bitching and moaning about how Porsche ruined the 911 by putting turbo engines in the 991.2 and they will be selling at great prices. ;-)
And oh yes... It will have a tune.
12-25-2017, 03:32 AM
#48
Rennlist Member
No surprise. Great for the guys wanting to go this direction!
Could the tuned RWD GTS be compared to the GT2RS in a similar manner to the Carrera T being compared to the GT3? Clearly different, but perhaps in the same vein for some?
Could the tuned RWD GTS be compared to the GT2RS in a similar manner to the Carrera T being compared to the GT3? Clearly different, but perhaps in the same vein for some?
12-25-2017, 09:58 AM
#49
Of course it will be .... This is the amazing and extremely boring world of turbocharged engines where tuning potential blurrs the lines between model variants ....
12-25-2017, 10:21 AM
#50
Rennlist Member
Don't forget that the 9A2 engine will be the same engine in the 992.1 and 992.2 so the Base 991.2 engine is very detuned to allow room for future growth in power. I am guessing about a 30hp gain for each model in the 992.1 and another 30hp gain for the 992.2.
12-25-2017, 11:09 AM
#51
I have been seriously considering the GIAC Tune on my BASE CPO Carrera. But like others, I am concerned about the warranty. Champion, another GIAC Retailer claims some type of Warranty "Gap" if the dealer fails to honor a warranty on a claim. However no Champion dealers in Chicago area. So I have chosen to wait for GIAC or someone else to come out with an OBD tunable solution, but as I have learned the tuners have just recently cracked the ECU coding, and OBD based tuning seems to be a few months out. With an OBD option, you could set the car back to stock when taking the car to the dealer. I had something similar on my BMW 335i, and it was a breeze, using an Android phone to tune.
With the current GIAC option the ECU has to come out of the car to be tuned (not too involved), but if you want to de-tune, say for a dealer visit, or re-tune because the dealer reset the ECU, you need to send the brain back to GIAC for a retune. Apparently the re-tune is free from GIAC, but the you pay for labor for the retune, as well as the inconvenience.
From what I have learned these tunes are just emerging, and while GIAC is very reputable, it sounds like OBD based tunes are just around the corner, and I am choosing to wait for that. My car is still in break-in too, so probably good to wait until it is at least above 2K miles anyway.
With the current GIAC option the ECU has to come out of the car to be tuned (not too involved), but if you want to de-tune, say for a dealer visit, or re-tune because the dealer reset the ECU, you need to send the brain back to GIAC for a retune. Apparently the re-tune is free from GIAC, but the you pay for labor for the retune, as well as the inconvenience.
From what I have learned these tunes are just emerging, and while GIAC is very reputable, it sounds like OBD based tunes are just around the corner, and I am choosing to wait for that. My car is still in break-in too, so probably good to wait until it is at least above 2K miles anyway.
12-25-2017, 12:23 PM
#52
I have been seriously considering the GIAC Tune on my BASE CPO Carrera. But like others, I am concerned about the warranty. Champion, another GIAC Retailer claims some type of Warranty "Gap" if the dealer fails to honor a warranty on a claim. However no Champion dealers in Chicago area. So I have chosen to wait for GIAC or someone else to come out with an OBD tunable solution, but as I have learned the tuners have just recently cracked the ECU coding, and OBD based tuning seems to be a few months out. With an OBD option, you could set the car back to stock when taking the car to the dealer. I had something similar on my BMW 335i, and it was a breeze, using an Android phone to tune.
With the current GIAC option the ECU has to come out of the car to be tuned (not too involved), but if you want to de-tune, say for a dealer visit, or re-tune because the dealer reset the ECU, you need to send the brain back to GIAC for a retune. Apparently the re-tune is free from GIAC, but the you pay for labor for the retune, as well as the inconvenience.
From what I have learned these tunes are just emerging, and while GIAC is very reputable, it sounds like OBD based tunes are just around the corner, and I am choosing to wait for that. My car is still in break-in too, so probably good to wait until it is at least above 2K miles anyway.
With the current GIAC option the ECU has to come out of the car to be tuned (not too involved), but if you want to de-tune, say for a dealer visit, or re-tune because the dealer reset the ECU, you need to send the brain back to GIAC for a retune. Apparently the re-tune is free from GIAC, but the you pay for labor for the retune, as well as the inconvenience.
From what I have learned these tunes are just emerging, and while GIAC is very reputable, it sounds like OBD based tunes are just around the corner, and I am choosing to wait for that. My car is still in break-in too, so probably good to wait until it is at least above 2K miles anyway.
12-25-2017, 12:34 PM
#53
You can check this out from BoostAddict, might give some insight: http://www.****************/content.p...ents-the-issue
12-25-2017, 06:36 PM
#55
A compelling reason to get the AWD instead of the RWD. I would imagine the extra hp on a RWD might not be as useful. But wow that's some serious power gain with what looks like reasonable traction.
12-25-2017, 06:38 PM
#56
Rennlist Member
That’s inconclusive. The dealer can tell you one thing, but when it comes down to warranty claims Porsche is the decider. I don’t think a mild tune is a cause for much concern vis-a-vis durability, however I’m reluctant to give Porsche a reason to deny warranty work. I’ll wait until the 4 years is up. 2.5 years to go and it will be like getting a new car at that point.
12-25-2017, 07:09 PM
#57
Rennlist Member
If you melt a piston or put a rod through the block and they know you modified the ecu software, you be sure they will not cover it. But warranties aren't really 'voided', only warranty claims potentially not covered if Porsche feels that that the damage was due to neglect or modification.
12-25-2017, 07:23 PM
#58
Burning Brakes
These base, S and GTS cars are not meant for this . They are daily driving great handling 911 cars . They are not record breakers .
12-25-2017, 07:31 PM
#59
Burning Brakes
If you melt a piston or put a rod through the block and they know you modified the ecu software, you be sure they will not cover it. But warranties aren't really 'voided', only warranty claims potentially not covered if Porsche feels that that the damage was due to neglect or modification.
That;s why when I see people talk about the pennies it costs to make a base car into an S they are not looking at the exit fee or repair risk exposure .
One last thing a modified car ought to be documented with ones insurance . a lot of guys do not do this and they need to.
Ultimately it;s the owners car . Porsche owns the warranty but Porsche does not own the owner.
12-25-2017, 08:34 PM
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If you melt a piston or put a rod through the block and they know you modified the ecu software, you be sure they will not cover it. But warranties aren't really 'voided', only warranty claims potentially not covered if Porsche feels that that the damage was due to neglect or modification.
