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Old 10-22-2017, 11:35 PM
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Isn't this car like the "mini-me" version of the 911R?

Actually, the poor-man's "mini-me" version of the 911R.
Old 10-22-2017, 11:42 PM
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I like it. Not every car can be, or needs to be, a GT. What's not to like?

manual gear box
sport pasm, -20mm
mechanical locking diff
short shifter
lightweight glass
reduced sound deadening
shorter rear axle ratio
rear stearing

The only negative might be the turbo engine but Porsche has been making turbo cars for a long time. It's also likely $50k+ less expensive than a GT3. It's not a GT3.

Every car including the GT2RS on down is a marketing exercise. What does that mean?

Everyone is crying for more driver's cars? What should they build?
Old 10-22-2017, 11:45 PM
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I like it. If I were going to buy a 911 and $ was a major concern, this is the one I’d buy.
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Will 918 owners get first dibs on these special cars?

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Old 10-22-2017, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Loess
I like it. Not every car can be, or needs to be, a GT. What's not to like?

Everyone is crying for more driver's cars? What should they build?
One of these with an NA engine.

A true drivers car is three things. Manual, NA, lightweight.

They only really accomplished one of those, and then made a feeble stab at reducing a dozen pounds of weight.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Isn't this car like the "mini-me" version of the 911R?

Actually, the poor-man's "mini-me" version of the 911R.
Seems to me the poor man’s GT3 touring which was the poor man’s 911R.
Old 10-22-2017, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Will 918 owners get first dibs on these special cars?

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None of them will want one. Buy as many as you want. A dud here.
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Originally Posted by Loess
I like it. Not every car can be, or needs to be, a GT. What's not to like?

manual gear box
sport pasm, -20mm
mechanical locking diff
short shifter
lightweight glass
reduced sound deadening
shorter rear axle ratio
rear stearing

The only negative might be the turbo engine but Porsche has been making turbo cars for a long time. It's also likely $50k+ less expensive than a GT3. It's not a GT3.

Every car including the GT2RS on down is a marketing exercise. What does that mean?

Everyone is crying for more driver's cars? What should they build?
You forgot available LWBs, rear seat delete, radio delete, and sport chrono wart delete!
Old 10-22-2017, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
None of them will want one. Buy as many as you want. A dud here.
I would be willing to bet that it has the most demand of any non-GT 991.2 in the short and long term.
Old 10-23-2017, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by evilfij
I would be willing to bet that it has the most demand of any non-GT 991.2 in the short and long term.
Could be. That’s not saying much for the 991.2 Carrera’s which have yet to match 991.1 sales in the USA. 991.1 values have actually gone UP since they went turbo on the 991.2 Carrera.

Why wouldn’t they offer this in the GTS or S models??
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Originally Posted by Drifting

One of these with an NA engine.

A true drivers car is three things. Manual, NA, lightweight.

They only really accomplished one of those, and then made a feeble stab at reducing a dozen pounds of weight.
Unfortunately no modern Porsches are lightweight. Turbo cars do have a torque advantage. I suppose the car should be air cooled as well.

I'm sure this isn't Porsche's attempt to make an ultimate cost no option drivers car. I think they've made a drivers oriented narrow bodied 911.

Put some snow tires on this and it would be a great year round driver.

I would have to delete those decals though.

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Porsche marketing is getting ahead of itself. The product should speak for itself. The overhyping and marketing mumbo jumbo is getting a bit tiring.
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If it has LWBs, manual, SPASM, RWS, and PCCBs as options, it could be pretty cool. For a turbo car at least.
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I think some of these options may not be available on US models.
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Originally Posted by STG
Porsche marketing is getting ahead of itself. The product should speak for itself. The overhyping and marketing mumbo jumbo is getting a bit tiring.
Come on. Everyone needs to market a product. What exactly are they overhyping here?

Look at the GT2RS marketing. You'd think they were having a hard time selling those things.


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