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djcxxx 10-23-2017 11:44 AM

I think the only miss on this car is that they should have dialed in 390-400 HP, less than the S but more than the standard Carrera. It's a little too expensive for the standard Carrera engine given that the price will go up even higher when optioned w/ LWB and RWS. For a parts bin special one could do worse.

LastMezger 10-23-2017 11:48 AM

It's exactly how I was speccing a standard 911 but represents better value and has some nice unique finishing and the availability of LWB. Complete WIN IMHO!!!

evilfij 10-23-2017 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by ExMB (Post 14552966)
So which is it: 10 mm or 20 mm lower?

So this is a funny thing. The 991.1 PASM was an option, it is now standard on a 991.2. So:

Reference height 991.1 no PASM
PASM 10mm lower
SPASM 20mm lower (10mm lower than PASM, SPASM is standard on GTS and 911T)
GT3 25mm lower (5mm lower than SPASM)

CAlexio 10-23-2017 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
End of life stripper model.
Should have called it RSAmerica and cheaper. You know, simple, half baked.

RSAmerica would have been the perfect name for it, and it would help pull the wool over our eyes a bit more so we could get a bit more excited about this thing. I still can’t believe they have two 911’s which they gave the name “Touring” to within a month of each other

Bossing 10-23-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LastMezger (Post 14553173)
It's exactly how I was speccing a standard 911 but represents better value and has some nice unique finishing and the availability of LWB. Complete WIN IMHO!!!

I agree it's a winning choice IF one is specifically looking for a low 100-110k spec.... here's my example below of my recent ex- .2 Carrera2 and then compared to a similar build on the new 911T.

As you can see, the difference in price is not overwhelmingly large but the difference in standard 911T equipment is significant since the 911T gets standard, PSE, SPASM, Ltd Slip diff, and a few more goodies otherwise either optional or completely unavailable on a standard Carrera. I even added Sport Chrono and in red on the new configuration.

I truly enjoyed my base 370hp Carrera on & off the track... so this new 911T is for folks who share a similar formula or recipe as I did. On my 991.2 I even bought that SPASM's front splitter from Suncoast and installed it myself.... if I kept the car, I would have added the short-throw shifter too (which is btw standard on the 911T). So this new T is an entry level pure no-frills 911 but now with an ample dose of performance-oriented components in a unique Touring pkg. Can't lose IMO... especially if you're able to negotiate a fair discount on a new 911T. That's my 2 cents....

Loess 10-23-2017 12:52 PM

The builder is showing no rear seats even with the standard seats and an option to delete the light weight glass. It is also showing an option to delete European Delivery. They must still be tweaking the builder but it doesn't look like NA will miss any of the options.

PantsFire 10-23-2017 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by ExMB (Post 14552966)
So which is it: 10 mm or 20 mm lower?

i have an s with SPASM i think, the one with the button, by default it's 10mm lower, push the button and it lowers a further 10mm, which might be why we see 10mm & 20mm

PantsFire 10-23-2017 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Loess (Post 14553324)
The builder is showing no rear seats even with the standard seats and an option to delete the light weight glass. It is also showing an option to delete European Delivery. They must still be tweaking the builder but it doesn't look like NA will miss any of the options.

On the UK configurator you can add Rear Seats as a zero cost option though not with the Lightweight Buckets.

evilfij 10-23-2017 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Loess (Post 14553324)
The builder is showing no rear seats even with the standard seats and an option to delete the light weight glass. It is also showing an option to delete European Delivery. They must still be tweaking the builder but it doesn't look like NA will miss any of the options.

No add PCM and US release does not mention radio delete so my guess is that is the one we dont get.

Bossing 10-23-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by evilfij (Post 14553358)
No add PCM and US release does not mention radio delete so my guess is that is the one we don’t get.

If the US-configurator is accurate, the radio delete is standard on US-spec and the addition of Full Buckets automatically deletes rear seats (I believe this is worldwide for the deletion).

Below is a build example I personally would like to do on a 911T..... I like how you can, for the first time, get buckets in a mundane 991. :D

ExMB 10-23-2017 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by evilfij (Post 14553236)
So this is a funny thing. The 991.1 PASM was an option, it is now standard on a 991.2. So:

Reference height 991.1 no PASM
PASM 10mm lower
SPASM 20mm lower (10mm lower than PASM, SPASM is standard on GTS and 911T)
GT3 25mm lower (5mm lower than SPASM)

1st of your links = ... including the PASM sports chassis as standard, lowered by 20 mm ...
2nd 0f your links = ... This includes the PASM Sport Suspension with a 0.39-inch (10 mm) lower ride height ...

Z356 10-23-2017 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by PantsFire (Post 14553327)
i have an s with SPASM i think, the one
with the button, by default it's 10mm lower,
push the button and it lowers a further 10mm,
which might be why we see 10mm & 20mm

PantsFire:

I thought pushing the button on a SPASM optioned
vehicle does NOT effect the ride height. It's always
at 20mm lower, regardless if you push the button...
or not! The button does change the 'active damping'
characteristics of the shocks.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6c121ac753.png

Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale

ToasterThief 10-23-2017 01:21 PM

I like this. If I'm honest with myself, I can't see myself seriously tracking a 911 GT3 enough to make it worth it. A driver focused car that goes back to the spirit of a 911 (and that isn't the subject of more threads about value than driving) may be just what the doctor ordered. NA would have been nice though...

Mech33 10-23-2017 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by ToasterThief (Post 14553391)
I like this. If I'm honest with myself, I can't see myself seriously tracking a 911 GT3 enough to make it worth it. A driver focused car that goes back to the spirit of a 911 (and that isn't the subject of more threads about value than driving) may be just what the doctor ordered. NA would have been nice though...

+1. Hopefully this frees up more GT3 allocations for track toys.

ExMB 10-23-2017 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bossing (Post 14553365)
If the US-configurator is accurate, the radio delete is standard on US-spec and the addition of Full Buckets automatically deletes rear seats (I believe this is worldwide for the deletion).

Below is a build example I personally would like to do on a 911T..... I like how you can, for the first time, get buckets in a mundane 991. :D

That pic is a ROW car as evidenced by the missing center headrest plugs in the seat. US also has the requirement for backup camera therefore radio delete is not an option.


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