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ipse dixit 10-22-2017 11:35 PM

Isn't this car like the "mini-me" version of the 911R?

Actually, the poor-man's "mini-me" version of the 911R.

Loess 10-22-2017 11:42 PM

I like it. Not every car can be, or needs to be, a GT. What's not to like?

manual gear box
sport pasm, -20mm
mechanical locking diff
short shifter
lightweight glass
reduced sound deadening
shorter rear axle ratio
rear stearing

The only negative might be the turbo engine but Porsche has been making turbo cars for a long time. It's also likely $50k+ less expensive than a GT3. It's not a GT3.

Every car including the GT2RS on down is a marketing exercise. What does that mean?

Everyone is crying for more driver's cars? What should they build?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...abd47abfc9.jpg

Jon70 10-22-2017 11:45 PM

I like it. If I were going to buy a 911 and $ was a major concern, this is the one I’d buy.

96redLT4 10-22-2017 11:45 PM

Will 918 owners get first dibs on these special cars?:rolleyes:

J

Drifting 10-22-2017 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Loess (Post 14552469)
I like it. Not every car can be, or needs to be, a GT. What's not to like?

Everyone is crying for more driver's cars? What should they build?

One of these with an NA engine.

A true drivers car is three things. Manual, NA, lightweight.

They only really accomplished one of those, and then made a feeble stab at reducing a dozen pounds of weight.

evilfij 10-22-2017 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by ipse dixit (Post 14552455)
Isn't this car like the "mini-me" version of the 911R?

Actually, the poor-man's "mini-me" version of the 911R.

Seems to me the poor man’s GT3 touring which was the poor man’s 911R.

STG 10-22-2017 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Will 918 owners get first dibs on these special cars?:rolleyes:

J


None of them will want one. Buy as many as you want. A dud here.

evilfij 10-22-2017 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Loess (Post 14552469)
I like it. Not every car can be, or needs to be, a GT. What's not to like?

manual gear box
sport pasm, -20mm
mechanical locking diff
short shifter
lightweight glass
reduced sound deadening
shorter rear axle ratio
rear stearing

The only negative might be the turbo engine but Porsche has been making turbo cars for a long time. It's also likely $50k+ less expensive than a GT3. It's not a GT3.

Every car including the GT2RS on down is a marketing exercise. What does that mean?

Everyone is crying for more driver's cars? What should they build?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...abd47abfc9.jpg

You forgot available LWBs, rear seat delete, radio delete, and sport chrono wart delete!

evilfij 10-22-2017 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by STG (Post 14552494)
None of them will want one. Buy as many as you want. A dud here.

I would be willing to bet that it has the most demand of any non-GT 991.2 in the short and long term.

STG 10-23-2017 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by evilfij
I would be willing to bet that it has the most demand of any non-GT 991.2 in the short and long term.

Could be. That’s not saying much for the 991.2 Carrera’s which have yet to match 991.1 sales in the USA. 991.1 values have actually gone UP since they went turbo on the 991.2 Carrera.

Why wouldn’t they offer this in the GTS or S models??

Loess 10-23-2017 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by Drifting (Post 14552478)

One of these with an NA engine.

A true drivers car is three things. Manual, NA, lightweight.

They only really accomplished one of those, and then made a feeble stab at reducing a dozen pounds of weight.

Unfortunately no modern Porsches are lightweight. Turbo cars do have a torque advantage. I suppose the car should be air cooled as well.

I'm sure this isn't Porsche's attempt to make an ultimate cost no option drivers car. I think they've made a drivers oriented narrow bodied 911.

Put some snow tires on this and it would be a great year round driver.

I would have to delete those decals though.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1b82e77951.jpg

STG 10-23-2017 12:05 AM

Porsche marketing is getting ahead of itself. The product should speak for itself. The overhyping and marketing mumbo jumbo is getting a bit tiring.

Archimedes 10-23-2017 12:10 AM

If it has LWBs, manual, SPASM, RWS, and PCCBs as options, it could be pretty cool. For a turbo car at least.

STG 10-23-2017 12:11 AM

I think some of these options may not be available on US models.

Loess 10-23-2017 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by STG (Post 14552518)
Porsche marketing is getting ahead of itself. The product should speak for itself. The overhyping and marketing mumbo jumbo is getting a bit tiring.

Come on. Everyone needs to market a product. What exactly are they overhyping here?

Look at the GT2RS marketing. You'd think they were having a hard time selling those things.


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