The devil is whispering in my ear
08-20-2017, 10:48 PM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
The devil is whispering in my ear
As I've mentioned elsewhere, I've been thinking about returning to manual from PDK. Some test drives on Saturday convinced me that I absolutely do not want a Targa or a coupe, I want another cabriolet. I also require AWD because I do drive in winter, and now and then it's been an issue.
There are manual 4S and GTS 4 cabs out there, but I don't really want to move from a color I love (Amaranth Red) to something I find OK at best (grey, white, etc.) Which led me to spec'ing a custom GTS 4 cabriolet build, and I end up with a sticker price around $157k-$159k.
In looking at local manual transmission cars, I noticed that a local dealership has a used 2015 Turbo S cab for $159k. Not in a color combination I like, but it did make me look for colors I do, and I found a 2015 Turbo Cabriolet in Racing Yellow for $160k. The car has about 200 miles on it, so it's functionally brand new.
It's a Turbo, so of course it's PDK, but the devil is still whispering.
There are manual 4S and GTS 4 cabs out there, but I don't really want to move from a color I love (Amaranth Red) to something I find OK at best (grey, white, etc.) Which led me to spec'ing a custom GTS 4 cabriolet build, and I end up with a sticker price around $157k-$159k.
In looking at local manual transmission cars, I noticed that a local dealership has a used 2015 Turbo S cab for $159k. Not in a color combination I like, but it did make me look for colors I do, and I found a 2015 Turbo Cabriolet in Racing Yellow for $160k. The car has about 200 miles on it, so it's functionally brand new.
It's a Turbo, so of course it's PDK, but the devil is still whispering.
08-20-2017, 11:19 PM
#4
Tough choice for sure. Everyone respects the turbo for what it is: an absolutely amazing machine. The GTS is also fantastic just not quite as fast. Personally I love having a manual transmission so I'd stick with the GTS...but I wouldn't fault anyone for going turbo and PDK.
Cheers,
NF
Cheers,
NF
08-20-2017, 11:24 PM
#6
RL Community Team
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Stick with your first instinct...
08-20-2017, 11:27 PM
#7
If you really wanted manual, you will regret it
trust me, a friend has done that mistake a few times, it's all he talks about every time he buys a new car
"if it was a manual it would be so much fun, but it was a great deal"
not the smartest of friends
trust me, a friend has done that mistake a few times, it's all he talks about every time he buys a new car
"if it was a manual it would be so much fun, but it was a great deal"
not the smartest of friends
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08-20-2017, 11:38 PM
#8
Get the manual. Going from PDK to manual cost me a lot.
08-20-2017, 11:45 PM
#9
Three Wheelin'
What is your primary reason for flipping out of your current car. If its truly to go back to manual, I too would advise you sticking to your original plan.
08-21-2017, 01:04 AM
#10
Listen to the devil that's calling your name. I have spent a LOT of money over the years accepting P-cars that were close but no cigars. Biggest complaint in all of them was the PDK. While it is a fast transmission, I always missed the manual. This time I am speccing a GTS in the way that I want it, and not buying a car that someone else wanted. It's going to cost some cash, but in the end I'll be lots happier and will have a car that I hope I don't tire of. My problem at the moment is how to fill in the order sheet, although manual tranny tops the list and that box is checked.
08-21-2017, 01:13 AM
#11
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I am picking up my manual GTS cab next week. Then in November, a manual GT3. Don't settle. Get what you want. I don't think I will buy another PDK 911 in the near future, if ever again. Just not what i want in a 911.
08-21-2017, 01:34 AM
#12
Rocky Mountain High
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I currently own and drive a 991.1 Turbo S cabriolet. It's PDK. It's one of the most engaging cars that I've ever owned. It's far more exciting and more of a "drivers' car" than my 997.1 TT 6MT was. There's more to an exciting drivng experience than your left foot. Much more. The 991 Turbo is truly an exceptional car.
08-21-2017, 02:37 AM
#13
Rennlist Member
How about finding a nice pre-owned example in a "boring" color but with the spec you'd like, and then getting it custom wrapped to any color you want?
That should open up a lot of choices for you.
Also, my feeling is that if you want a manual, nothing else will satisfy!
That should open up a lot of choices for you.
Also, my feeling is that if you want a manual, nothing else will satisfy!
08-21-2017, 08:41 AM
#15
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Believe me, I looked at that car again before posting this thread. My wife doesn't want it, and I tried to talk myself into buying it. "I don't really need AWD," I said to myself. "I drove here for 11 years with a RWD car."
The problem is that, now and then, here and there, RWD was a problem.
A couple of times I was in New Hampshire during the winter, on roads with packed snow, and I had to feel around for exactly how fast I could go and remain stable. I.e. 30 MPH on a 55 MPH highway.
Boston streets aren't always clear. There was a time when I drove a short distance to pick up some paint, and when I tried to return, the roads were covered in enough slush that the car's rear was sliding around on the road, just getting moving.
Last year we came back from Virginia, and got stuck in snow on I84 in my wife's Cayman. There was a time or two when the wheels simply spun in place. We got off the expressway and pulled into a motel, but we couldn't get into the motel parking lot because it was a slight grade and the car simply wouldn't go up the slope. We had to find a back entrance to the lot that was flatter.
Now, it's true, none of these cars was 911 with a 911's greater weight over the rear axle, but it's clear to me that sometimes I really do need one car in the garage with AWD.
The problem is that, now and then, here and there, RWD was a problem.
A couple of times I was in New Hampshire during the winter, on roads with packed snow, and I had to feel around for exactly how fast I could go and remain stable. I.e. 30 MPH on a 55 MPH highway.
Boston streets aren't always clear. There was a time when I drove a short distance to pick up some paint, and when I tried to return, the roads were covered in enough slush that the car's rear was sliding around on the road, just getting moving.
Last year we came back from Virginia, and got stuck in snow on I84 in my wife's Cayman. There was a time or two when the wheels simply spun in place. We got off the expressway and pulled into a motel, but we couldn't get into the motel parking lot because it was a slight grade and the car simply wouldn't go up the slope. We had to find a back entrance to the lot that was flatter.
Now, it's true, none of these cars was 911 with a 911's greater weight over the rear axle, but it's clear to me that sometimes I really do need one car in the garage with AWD.
