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1949ford 02-18-2017 02:37 AM

GT3 bumper on a turbo??
 
Just was curious if it is possible to swap on a gt3 front bumper to a turbo? I'm sure many will hate the idea , but personally I love the look of a gt3 front bumper over the turbo bumper. Just more aggressive looking.

Overdraft 02-18-2017 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by 1949ford (Post 13967880)
Just was curious if it is possible to swap on a gt3 front bumper to a turbo? I'm sure many will hate the idea , but personally I love the look of a gt3 front bumper over the turbo bumper. Just more aggressive looking.

Search posts by sterlingc1975 because he did it.

Nanook 02-18-2017 11:20 AM

These guys do it http://www.lnc-oc.com/

sterlingc1975 02-18-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdraft (Post 13967975)
Search posts by sterlingc1975 because he did it.

I have done this multiple times and do all the programming needed to do so. Here is a pic of my turbo... I am the only one who does the programming to run the gt3 front bumper ( I do it for the other shops) . There are several things involved in this conversion .. Feel free to call me with any questions (949) 705-9416

DJ23 02-18-2017 06:49 PM

Great looking car. What type of wheels are those? They look 20 inch.

Jay

KaiatEliteMS 03-01-2019 04:14 PM

I'm looking to do this on conversion on a 991 turbo S, any tips? Would like it coded etc ( have access to PIWIS)

neil.schneider 03-01-2019 04:49 PM

It is a great look. Would need a lift.

aft86 03-01-2019 05:08 PM

I've always wanted to do this but wondered if there's irreversible work to be done (cutting & shapping of the fenders, hood, etc.) that would cost my firstborn child to reverse or significantly hurt the car's value in the future. Besides the bumper, are the other parts replaced with GT3 parts or are the turbo parts molded? Also, since the air dams are much bigger, does the amount of air caught hurt performance in any way?

Pdtp#16 04-03-2019 11:06 PM

It requires a lot of work. It’s not just the bumper. The airflow changes, radiator, electronics etc. You need a proper shop and it’s a significant expense. Depending on what you are seeking it’s worth it or a complete waste of dollars.

See attached he’s some pics
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2590719c3.jpeg
991 Cup radiator mod
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b7833f0c0.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1aea66654.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ad0568e68.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1d41122db.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...263714513.jpeg
Lots of small parts where needed in addition to plane bumper
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b7e87caca.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8fbfcec74.jpeg

miky360 04-06-2019 09:54 PM

Is welding the tow hook oem? or just your preference? That's wild

Pdtp#16 04-06-2019 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by miky360 (Post 15756045)
Is welding the tow hook oem? or just your preference? That's wild

everything is OEM. We installed a 991.2 Cup front bumper which required

- GT3 front reinforcement plus tow hook (this is what you see on that pic)
- Additional side running lights
- Grill outlet and grill retaining frames
- grate inlet and retaining frame
- hider air outlet
- GT3 Cup front splitter
- GT3 inner splash shield
- GT3 R&L inner splash shields
- GT3 Cup breaker router and brake ducts
- GT3 lower brake ducts
- GT3 cup center radiator
- GT3 cup I let duct hardware and hoses

Plus a bunch of mislenaious hardware. Additionally had to install the front cup fenders in order to make this work. Quite a bit of parts needed on top of bumper.

See finish product

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b9b6db5bc.jpeg

neil.schneider 04-08-2019 12:52 AM

Wow! Looks pretty good. A lot of work I am sure.

vtknight 04-08-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by neil.schneider (Post 15758170)
Wow! Looks pretty good. A lot of work I am sure.

Do we think that because the GT3 works - that the GT3 front end on the Turbo S will be just as aero-correct? Are we hurting the performance on the Turbo S by changing to a front end it was not designed to have is my question.

Pdtp#16 04-08-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by vtknight (Post 15759585)
Do we think that because the GT3 works - that the GT3 front end on the Turbo S will be just as aero-correct? Are we hurting the performance on the Turbo S by changing to a front end it was not designed to have is my question.

Based on the research we did, if you are looking for performance you need to change both in order to ensure aerodynamically you are balanced. We ended up changing front bumper, fenders, rear decklid, rear wing etc. It all has to be in harmony with each other.

modifier 04-14-2019 01:56 PM

I just bought a 2014 Turbo S and right next to it was a 2015 GT3. I drove both but decided the Turbo was a much more practical car to drive around, and I already have a Cup car for the track. Not that the GT3 was bad to drive, and the front does look better than the Turbo, but another thing to consider imo is I wouldn't want to try to drive around town with an air dam hanging way down without a front end lifting option on the car. Not sure how hard that would be to add.

Pdtp#16 04-14-2019 09:34 PM

I don't think anyone can debate that having a cup car for track purposes and then having a TTS for the street is a magnificent combination. I would also have to agree that just doing a front bumper for looks its a waste of money and you might as well just buy a GT3 or an RS. On our side the goal for this build was to create a car that:

1- Retain rear seats - we where able to figure out a five point harness and still retain the rear seat
2- The adrenaline of the higher HP (car has over 700HP) combined with 4 wheel drive on the track its pretty intoxicating and in many ways more forgiving on track.
3- Retain the street drive-ability for weekends etc yet be able to head to the track for DE events and be competitive with a GT2RS. While we love the exhaust note of a GT3 (no denying this) most wife hate it. So this was an important factor here!
4- Much lower running costs than running a Cup Car. (No need for mechanics at the track, unless you really want it. etc)

Of course there are many downsides for doing this too. Most of the modifications cost (if not all) you will never get back upon re-sale and to do it right is NOT cheap. We didn't use any after market parts!. And of course the car becomes more of a GT car than a comfortable TTS, etc

modifier 04-15-2019 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Pdtp#16 (Post 15773866)
I don't think anyone can debate that having a cup car for track purposes and then having a TTS for the street is a magnificent combination. I would also have to agree that just doing a front bumper for looks its a waste of money and you might as well just buy a GT3 or an RS. On our side the goal for this build was to create a car that:

1- Retain rear seats - we where able to figure out a five point harness and still retain the rear seat
2- The adrenaline of the higher HP (car has over 700HP) combined with 4 wheel drive on the track its pretty intoxicating and in many ways more forgiving on track.
3- Retain the street drive-ability for weekends etc yet be able to head to the track for DE events and be competitive with a GT2RS. While we love the exhaust note of a GT3 (no denying this) most wife hate it. So this was an important factor here!
4- Much lower running costs than running a Cup Car. (No need for mechanics at the track, unless you really want it. etc)

Of course there are many downsides for doing this too. Most of the modifications cost (if not all) you will never get back upon re-sale and to do it right is NOT cheap. We didn't use any after market parts!. And of course the car becomes more of a GT car than a comfortable TTS, etc

Well you did a great job, and I agree that there are lots of hassles with a CUP. Plus 700HP! and all wheel drive. That is a beast. I was really more addressing people who are thinking of doing a front end swap just for the look, kind of like guys putting a wing on the back of their otherwise stock Toyota sedan. ;)

Pdtp#16 04-17-2019 07:16 PM

Agree 100%

sterlingc1975 12-28-2019 01:23 PM

Although it is pricey It was worth it. All the aero with proper suspension makes the car 👌.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...57257be0b8.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...db4122669a.jpg

Pdtp#16 12-28-2019 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by sterlingc1975 (Post 16317211)
Although it is pricey It was worth it. All the aero with proper suspension makes the car 👌.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...57257be0b8.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...db4122669a.jpg

You guys did a great job with this build. Loved how you incorporated the Cup wing into the 2RS decklid!

neil.schneider 12-28-2019 03:00 PM

Beautiful job.

SilveRT8 12-31-2019 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by sterlingc1975 (Post 16317211)
Although it is pricey It was worth it. All the aero with proper suspension makes the car 👌.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...57257be0b8.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...db4122669a.jpg

Love your car and the deep dish wheels.
What brand are those ? Can you post a pic at a standstill ?


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