npp

There are many 2014 and 2015 TT in the 135-149k range that have sport chrono. I recommend a CPO one as its worth the minimal extra money for peace of mind.

FastLaneTurbo

Usually my Track activities are in my 991 GT3, but have tracked my 2015 991-1 TTS at Roebling Road and,
more recently, Sept. 10th - 11th, on the Barber Motorsports Track in Birmingham, AL followed by other
Track Sessions with the new 991-2 TTS the following weekend, 9/17 - 18, in the Master's Course at the Porsche Driving School at Barber where we alternated driving Sessions with -2 TTS, GT3RS, Carrera C2S,
and GT4. IMHO, the 20 additional HP of the -1 TTS (560 HP) vs the 580 HP -2 was insignificant and undetectable.. The performance, response, handling and agility was essentially the same - both were equally outstanding and personally, I can see no reason to prefer one over the other - unless you consider the infotainment system upgrades and connectivity very important. - IMO they are simply a useless additional driving distraction and another detriment to safety - especially when driving the TTS anywhere near its considerable limits. BTW, after covering over 3,000 miles of touring the Southeastern US with the TTS, my wife and I were amazed at how comfortable the trip was for us - much closer to our Panamera S
or E-63S than our (surprisingly comfortable) 991 GT3.

On the Barber track at the Porsche Sport Driving School, driving the newest GT3RS, TTS, GT4 and C2S
back-to-back on the same track on the same day, and alongside the other models, some impressions emerge: The RS felt as light, delightful and responsive as my GT3 with perhaps slightly better acceleration and, to me, similarly predictable behavior although 2 or 3 additional RS models had been taken out of service for recent track damage repairs with little further explanation. The TTS's were able to exploit their huge Torque advantage on the uphill segments and their superior acceleration on straights to stay with the
far lighter RS's, which was expected. Which was not expected, at least by me, was the outstanding track performance of the newly Turbocharged Carrera C2S with SC and PDCC with handling and steering which felt far lighter and more responsive than both my TTS and my 2012 991-1 C2S which I drove and tracked for 2 years until the GT3 became available. I suspect some of that Porsche "Black Magic" that evades the Spec sheets has been lavished on the new 991-2's suspension, steering and PDK. It felt so much better than my earlier model. With a Torque curve flat as a billiard table from 2,000 RPM almost to redline, its nimble response on the road and track will certainly make the choice of a C2S vs a TT or TTS much more difficult. Driving the GT4 was as much a disappointment for me as the C2S was a revelation. The Engine is simply outgunned in the company of the other cars. With its low-torque at Low-Mid RPM, and its leisurely Engine acceleration, it was being eaten alive by its siblings. A neat and tidy overall track package with good
handling it virtually cries out for a GT-like Engine or, (gasp) a Turbocharger.
In summary, a CPO'd 991-1 TT or TTS would definitely be my choice today, unless I really wanted a NEW car - in which case I'd consider either a new C2S, TT or TTS. Finances would undoubtedly play a big role.

philg3

I've experienced the dilemma of the 991S versus the 991.2TT, and ended up with the later, mainly because a well optioned 991.2S approaches the price of a 991.2TT that has many options as standard. The 991.2TT is now at Emden waiting for a ship to take it to San Diego, and lists for about $168K. With a discount, my price is $159K. Why go for 2-3 year old model, when you can get a new one for not much more, and order exactly what you want? I ordered mine in May, so there is a wait, and the wait is not easy (there is a waiting room to assist you on the non-Turbo thread), but it will be worth it -- I hope.

ace37

I did the exact same thing and gave up my almost-locked C2S allocation for a TT allocation. That wasn't a pair of models I had expected to cross shop.

Bklyn964Turbo

Since it's only got 1.2K miles on it the car should have the new car warranty which I believe goes to 50K miles so it is certainly covered unless the previous owner did some sort of crazy mod that voids the warranty.

trice9

i have a similar, but different story. I had a 997.2TT. Have been in love with the Targa since it came out in its current form on the 991. Have been waiting/hoping for a TT Targa. Don't think it's ever going to happen. I test drove the 991.1 GTS Targa, hoping to like it. Nope. It was a far cry from my TT. Couldn't make the switch. Then test drove the 991.2 4S Targa. Wow, what a great car. Very close to my TT. After spec'ing it out, I realized for about $15k more I could get a new 991.2 TT coupe spec'd the way i would want. Test drove it, and liked it a lot. BUT, I want the Targa. It's comparable to my TT on the 'fun' meter, seems just as fast, and given that I don't track my car, not sure I'd fully appreciate the better performance of the 991.2TT over the 991.2 4S Targa. Long story short, I traded in my 997.2TT, have the Targa on order, and will get in December. Can't wait.

ace37

I also had thought the 991.2 Targa 4S with the new 3.0TT motor sounded like a great combination! Hope you love it.

mark12345

I was in the same dilemma: considered a 991.2 C4S/Targa and 991.1 TTS.
I decided I didn't want a TTS because I specifically did not want PCCB and center wheel locks.
Then I looked at low mileage 991.1 TT and thought they were still out of my price range.
After searching for 4 weeks, I got lucky and found a NEW 2016 TT spec'ed the way I wanted it and it was only $15K more than the 2017 C4S.
The TT is in a different league than a 991.2 C4S. And in my opinion, better than the 2010 R8 V10.
Plus I'll see a lot of 991.2 CS/C4S next summer but I rarely see Turbos
I will keep the TT for a very long time and more importantly, the wife approves!

ace37

I just ordered a TT, but I'd still like to know: can you explain your opinion? You feel quite strongly, what makes the TT so drastically different to you than the C4S?

I ask because we seem to all decide to buy a Porsche 911 for slightly different reasons than one another. Understanding the rationale behind your opinion helps us understand if we would feel the same.

mark12345

I have a 2010 R8 V10 (5K miles) and just bought a new 2016 TT.

The power is the first thing you noticed between a 991 TT vs a 991.2 C4S and R8. The TT w/sports chrono is simply in a different league when it comes to acceleration and passing power. Don't get me wrong, the power in a 991.2 C4S and R8 is good but TT is "instant". Additionally a new loaded 991.2 C4S is approaching on the prices of discounted new 2016 TT's so why not go with the original when it comes to turbo and get additional ~100hp

What it comes down to is a buyer's personal preference. For 95% of the people, a 991.2 C4S should be plenty of power and refinement. Heck a standard Carrera would be fine for most people. The other 5% there are the TT's. By the way, I would take a new or low mileage 991.1 C4S over the 991.2 C4S. Yes the 991.2 is faster but the 991.1 engine sound and top end speed is better in my opinion. In terms of quality, after only a year of ownership I wasn't impressed with the R8's quality and the design isn't a timeless classic like the 911.

In terms of handling, the TT is great from the factory but really depends on the options. Sports chrono is a must and PDCC is optional. I chose the TT over TTS because I didn't want PCCB and center wheel locks that comes standard with TTS. The TT feels "tight" in all aspects of driving. I see a lot of C2S/C4S and R8s in my area and rarely do I see Turbos let alone a 991 TT. Now that I have a TT, if I bought another 911 I would do a manual 991.1 Carrera to compliment the TT. I think a basic Carrera manual would be the ultimate drivers car.

I hope this helps!

ace37

Thanks!

I was interested in the R8 in particular, but the lack of rear seats crossed it off my list before I test drove it. It's nice to hear from someone who owned both!

And I also didn't want PCCB or center lock wheels.

Porsche 25th

In the last 5 years: 997TT->991C4S->991TTS. I loved all of them but boost is addictive.