Tracking the Turbo
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The rubbing is inside wheel well at full turn only.
No lowering, I need stock height to access my house.
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991 TTS, goal is to maintain street ride but improve track ride without harshness. Firmer cornering, less brake dive and acceleration squat, better transient response, flexibility to tune and change configuration. Starting camber will be around 2.4 & 2.8. Widen front end and improve stick all around with the R's too. Also if you lower your car you will need to keep tie rod geometry correct. Equal or improved braking, but with less ceramic rotor wear. Should show rear views to new RS’s with ease given same driver skill set. Will provide impressions and results once we get some dry weather up here, and any sorting completed. Results will vary depending on configuration and how much deflection you leave. Check with your local shop for more on various approaches. I spoke with a lot of mod shops and race teams to come up with this. Kudos to them coming after results.
-Rennline mesh grille guards
-Pagid RSC1 pads
-AWE mirror wind deflectors
-Tarett : front camber plates, front lower control arms, axel spacer kit, shims, lower control arm spacers, rear long & medium upper control arms, boot ends.
-DSC V2 controller
-Sharkworks catback exhaust
-OEM wheels, powder coated, Trofeo Rs
-Rennline mesh grille guards
-Pagid RSC1 pads
-AWE mirror wind deflectors
-Tarett : front camber plates, front lower control arms, axel spacer kit, shims, lower control arm spacers, rear long & medium upper control arms, boot ends.
-DSC V2 controller
-Sharkworks catback exhaust
-OEM wheels, powder coated, Trofeo Rs
http://www.tarett.com/items/996-997-...-10-detail.htm
It was the only front axle spacer I found on Tarett's website, and it seems to be for 996/997TT only?
Is an axle spacer definitely needed given the LCA+camber plate, even when not going crazy high to -3.5,-4 type numbers? I think all I need to run is 2.6-2.7 upfront without popping axles off the diff.
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Spacers etc
Yes spacers are for reason you state. Check with Tarett re specifics on what you want to accomplish. Great folks, or suggest your mod shop. With R compounds you want lots of camber. Lesser varients don't need as much suspension etc.
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What is the consensus on alignment settings with stock suspension? I see that the factory sets camber at -1.0 F and -2.0 R. Is the thought to run max neg camber? Or is something like -1.8 F -1.7 R better? Also any other changes to the factory alignment settings helpful?
I may try the DSC box but otherwise I will keep the suspension stock. I got N1 Cup2's for my GT3 and since the N0's that were being replaced were in good shape, I slapped them on the Turbo S. Much better than the stock N0 PZeros of course.
I may try the DSC box but otherwise I will keep the suspension stock. I got N1 Cup2's for my GT3 and since the N0's that were being replaced were in good shape, I slapped them on the Turbo S. Much better than the stock N0 PZeros of course.
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What is the consensus on alignment settings with stock suspension? I see that the factory sets camber at -1.0 F and -2.0 R. Is the thought to run max neg camber? Or is something like -1.8 F -1.7 R better? Also any other changes to the factory alignment settings helpful?
I may try the DSC box but otherwise I will keep the suspension stock. I got N1 Cup2's for my GT3 and since the N0's that were being replaced were in good shape, I slapped them on the Turbo S. Much better than the stock N0 PZeros of course.
I may try the DSC box but otherwise I will keep the suspension stock. I got N1 Cup2's for my GT3 and since the N0's that were being replaced were in good shape, I slapped them on the Turbo S. Much better than the stock N0 PZeros of course.
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Ok good to know. My GT3 runs similar camber settings as your Turbo with no adverse tire wear on the outside edges. Other cars with more front weight bias and lack of rear wheel steering need a bit more neg camber up front to rotate and help tire wear.
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1- Yes camber is about tire wear, but primarily for cornering its for optimizing contact patch and tire temperatures, AWD or 2WD.
2- Affective camber is also significantly impacted by the type of suspension bushings one runs, OEM rubber deflects, monoball or spherical don't and thus hold camber better, needing less of it. With OEM bushings you are setting camber as a mid point or average of the range of deflection the suspension experiences. A less deflective suspension holds truer to the actual static camber setting #.
3- Rotation is mostly about F & R toe settings, and how fore/aft weight shift of the car is managed during a turn, using the brakes and throttle to facilitate, and actually doing most of the turning.
4- All wheel steering helps rotation at speeds under 60mph or so when the rears turn the opposite direction of the fronts. Above those speeds the rears turn the same direction as the fronts, helps hold a line but not a rotation enhancer.
With C2s and OEM camber ranges you'll be fine for most driving. For track addicts more camber is useful. Others will chime in I'm sure, just my two bits, hope it helps.
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