Porsche 991 Turbo/S heat soak issues
#16
If you are worried about heat soak, you need to check out this semi-famous R&T 991TTS review:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-65-7-roa0314/
It's the one where they launched the car 50+ times back to back to back. No wait for cool down, no "limp mode"; just immediately launched it again and again. 50th was as strong as the first. [One of my favorite test notes in recent memory is in this review: "Watching a 2.6-second launch from outside the car is surreal. You see what looks like one full revolution of each wheel, and then it's just gone."]
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-65-7-roa0314/
It's the one where they launched the car 50+ times back to back to back. No wait for cool down, no "limp mode"; just immediately launched it again and again. 50th was as strong as the first. [One of my favorite test notes in recent memory is in this review: "Watching a 2.6-second launch from outside the car is surreal. You see what looks like one full revolution of each wheel, and then it's just gone."]
#17
Racer
ByDesign Intercoolers
Cobb AP3 with new Stage 3 tune for intercoolers
Fabspeed headers and exhaust
BMC intake
IPD Plenum
Haven't dyno'd the car, and I don't race. All my cars are street driven only and I mod them so I can simply have more fun in the streets.
Biggest difference was the tune, when going form stock to Stage 2! Going from Stage 2 to Stage 3 (Intercooler upgrade) made a difference, but not in the lower end, only at higher speeds, and only at the point where the stock intercoolers would have been warmer. It was $$$ and unless tracking the car, not at all worth the upgrade. I don't regularly run 80 MPH and up WOT's, which is where this mod makes the difference.
Going from stock tune no mods to stage 2 (exhaust/ intake and tune) was huge. Much like adding a small blower to a non-blower car. That was the biggest single difference Nick. As usual, the 1st 10K posted the biggest gain, the next 10k was an ROI of peanuts and just more for winning pissing contests...LOL
#18
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by FBA
I did the following:
ByDesign Intercoolers
Cobb AP3 with new Stage 3 tune for intercoolers
Fabspeed headers and exhaust
BMC intake
IPD Plenum
Haven't dyno'd the car, and I don't race. All my cars are street driven only and I mod them so I can simply have more fun in the streets.
Biggest difference was the tune, when going form stock to Stage 2! Going from Stage 2 to Stage 3 (Intercooler upgrade) made a difference, but not in the lower end, only at higher speeds, and only at the point where the stock intercoolers would have been warmer. It was $$$ and unless tracking the car, not at all worth the upgrade. I don't regularly run 80 MPH and up WOT's, which is where this mod makes the difference.
Going from stock tune no mods to stage 2 (exhaust/ intake and tune) was huge. Much like adding a small blower to a non-blower car. That was the biggest single difference Nick. As usual, the 1st 10K posted the biggest gain, the next 10k was an ROI of peanuts and just more for winning pissing contests...LOL
ByDesign Intercoolers
Cobb AP3 with new Stage 3 tune for intercoolers
Fabspeed headers and exhaust
BMC intake
IPD Plenum
Haven't dyno'd the car, and I don't race. All my cars are street driven only and I mod them so I can simply have more fun in the streets.
Biggest difference was the tune, when going form stock to Stage 2! Going from Stage 2 to Stage 3 (Intercooler upgrade) made a difference, but not in the lower end, only at higher speeds, and only at the point where the stock intercoolers would have been warmer. It was $$$ and unless tracking the car, not at all worth the upgrade. I don't regularly run 80 MPH and up WOT's, which is where this mod makes the difference.
Going from stock tune no mods to stage 2 (exhaust/ intake and tune) was huge. Much like adding a small blower to a non-blower car. That was the biggest single difference Nick. As usual, the 1st 10K posted the biggest gain, the next 10k was an ROI of peanuts and just more for winning pissing contests...LOL
#19
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by DaveChapin
If you are worried about heat soak, you need to check out this semi-famous R&T 991TTS review:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-65-7-roa0314/
It's the one where they launched the car 50+ times back to back to back. No wait for cool down, no "limp mode"; just immediately launched it again and again. 50th was as strong as the first. [One of my favorite test notes in recent memory is in this review: "Watching a 2.6-second launch from outside the car is surreal. You see what looks like one full revolution of each wheel, and then it's just gone."]
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-65-7-roa0314/
It's the one where they launched the car 50+ times back to back to back. No wait for cool down, no "limp mode"; just immediately launched it again and again. 50th was as strong as the first. [One of my favorite test notes in recent memory is in this review: "Watching a 2.6-second launch from outside the car is surreal. You see what looks like one full revolution of each wheel, and then it's just gone."]
#22
2017 TTS
Grisoguy;
Just pu`d a 2017 TTS cpe from Gaudin Porsche,Lv Nv.
You say no issues with your car,2014...great to hear..
.
Did you mod the car?If so what did you do?Who did
the installation/locally?
I`m thinking about some mods in time.
Any impute,info would greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Auf Wiedersehen
Nache
Henderson,Nv
Just pu`d a 2017 TTS cpe from Gaudin Porsche,Lv Nv.
You say no issues with your car,2014...great to hear..
.
Did you mod the car?If so what did you do?Who did
the installation/locally?
I`m thinking about some mods in time.
Any impute,info would greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Auf Wiedersehen
Nache
Henderson,Nv
#23
Track Day
The best place in town for new car retrofits is Premier Sportscar Service in Las Vegas. premiersportscarservice.com. Located on the other side of I-15 from Mandalaybay Casino. He installed the exhaust and ECU upgrade on my last turbo. No lights not problems no overheating. Trouble free. No mods done to my 2014 Turbo. It has enough power for me. He has lots of experience , small shop and the owner Kent Moore does most of the work himself. Check out his web site. He was the head mechanics for the defect Porsche race team in Las Vegas that one the 24 Hours of LeMans. He as access to exhaust upgrades and ECU upgrades from his Porsche factory contacts in Germany. He buys direct from the manufactures that supply Porsche with the OE hardware and software. Thus he as access to proven anon OE hardware and software upgrades designed and tested by the same companies that supply the OE manufacturer. Great shop. He also has lots of GT3 cars that he maintains for racers and he has a large car carrier trailer that he uses to haul race cars to the track since he provide support. Very honest and goes a great job. Work number 702-553-8996. Address5325 Polaris Ave, Suite 500, Las Vegas, NV 89118. Email address kmrace1@aol.com. I encourage you to call and drop buy his shop and take to him and make your own evaluation on his capability and discuss what you want to do. He is very honest and if he thinks you are wasting money he will tell you. Mention my name Jay Healey. If this is your first Porsche I suggest you join the PCA. We have a local chapter that meets once month for breakfast on Sunday at the Red Rock Country club. You can find us on the web in Las Vegas. Great car you will love it. Have owned a Turbo since 2001. Once you have one a normal car will not due it. The launch control is also fun.
#24
911 upgrad-info
JG;
Thanks for a swift reply!!
No,JG..my 1st Porsche was a 356 cpe in aprox 1957,when I lived in Germany..& have had P-cars on-off since...
Used to use carl Young years ago.I`ve
also met Tony Mazzagatti/wife....he helped when I
was flipping(buy-sell) a few 356`s....a time ago.
JG,so you think Premier(Kent)is a better/Trophy-Todd)
Ok.....
What about LA indy shops?Cant think of a the name of
the shop I used to mod a MB 1985 sec 500 cpe(in 85)...it was near westwood/little santa moncia,close to
Westwood,blocks east...I think?
Once again ...........Thanks for the help.....JG.
Maybe will meet at a P-club event.
Take care
Ciao
XN---yes,that is my 1st name.
PS: My current is 2017-BLK-blk TTS,cpe still driving on 30dy drive-away......then will be plated=XNR.......off of the 2015 991.1-TT,cpe.
I am a pca member.& only went to 1.. Sundy R/R,a
few months ago.
Thanks for a swift reply!!
No,JG..my 1st Porsche was a 356 cpe in aprox 1957,when I lived in Germany..& have had P-cars on-off since...
Used to use carl Young years ago.I`ve
also met Tony Mazzagatti/wife....he helped when I
was flipping(buy-sell) a few 356`s....a time ago.
JG,so you think Premier(Kent)is a better/Trophy-Todd)
Ok.....
What about LA indy shops?Cant think of a the name of
the shop I used to mod a MB 1985 sec 500 cpe(in 85)...it was near westwood/little santa moncia,close to
Westwood,blocks east...I think?
Once again ...........Thanks for the help.....JG.
Maybe will meet at a P-club event.
Take care
Ciao
XN---yes,that is my 1st name.
PS: My current is 2017-BLK-blk TTS,cpe still driving on 30dy drive-away......then will be plated=XNR.......off of the 2015 991.1-TT,cpe.
I am a pca member.& only went to 1.. Sundy R/R,a
few months ago.
#25
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by 911tts-LA
Please educate a newby. If I go to stage 2, do I "have to" upgrade the intercooler?
That being said I would highly recommend better upgraded intercoolers if you are already getting high flow exhaust or catless and turning up the boost. This is the GIAC Stage 2+ or Cobb/ByDesign stage 3. The stock intercoolers are tiny and very lightweight. They are designed to handle stock levels of boost -- not higher boost and the ensuing higher IATs. Not only will your tune be even stronger but your turbos will thank you thanks to lower IATs. You will feel this upgrade more at higher speeds and it makes the best numbers more repeatable by keeping best soak in check.
There are several manufacturers of upgraded intercoolers. The most expensive ones are Champion Motorsports intercoolers. I have these. They are huge and heavy. Other available ones that I know of are AWE, ByDesign and I believe Boostlogic.
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sdg1871 you are on point with your calculated and insightful responses. I appreciate you choosing to go with Fabspeed exhaust in your build, and I work with Sam over ByDesign closely with a lot of big Turbo builds. Great guy and highly recommend his products and services.
If there is anything I can do or any questions I can answer please feel free to reach out.
If there is anything I can do or any questions I can answer please feel free to reach out.
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John@Fabspeed.com
215-618-9796
Fabspeed Motorsport USA
155 Commerce Drive Fort Washington, PA 19034
www.Fabspeed.com