"Paddle Neutral"
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This evening I played around with it. Under all circumstances if I pull and immediately release the paddles (think mouse click here) my TT always goes to neutral. If I pull and hold it does nothing. So, for the folks that can't make it work, my only thought is that you're not releasing the paddles. Or, you've got rogue PDK software. Umm... because we can put it in neutral. And without moving our hands from the wheel. If that isn't sufficient how about this:
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Unless you have PCCB, in which case you may be screwed. PCCB is tuned for more "initial bite" (i.e. tuned to be "grabby".) I haven't tried this PDK feature in a PCCB Porsche. I'd be interested in reports from PCCB owners, if indeed the PCCB brakes are too grabby to be able to engage the brake pedal switch without very-noticeable braking force.
All the Audis (TT range, R8 family) are tuned for grabby brakes (steel or otherwise) so for those DSG Audis you pretty much cannot put the car into gear from a slow roll without coming to a stop. One (of many) reasons my 991 is not an R8.
It also seems to re-engage in a clunky fashion. I don't think I will make a habit of this.
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I to was able get the feature to work this afternoon as well, you have to release them VERY quickly.
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I get the whole neutral thing worf, have previously read that that neutral can be achieved from the steering wheel. What I meant was where are the benefits from doing so? Revving it up alongside a civic is not my bag personally, so other than that what are the other benefits?
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Here, I'll make some stuff up for ya. Shifting into neutral may:
- prevent the hesitation-from-start that many PDK-driving folks report. Since the PDK ECU adapts to driving style, shifting into neutral when stopped or coasting to a stop may make the ECU realize that you want your PDK to act like a real manual rather than a viscous-coupled abortion-of-a-transmission from a 1973 Impala.
- lengthen the useful life of the fluid in the clutch pack so that when you get charged for a PDK flush that didn't actually happen, your PDK's expensive bits might not suffer as much as fast.
- lessen the wear on whatever PDK uses for a throw-out bearing and since the PDK has two of whatever that is, it's doubly-effective.
- prevent the hesitation-from-start that many PDK-driving folks report. Since the PDK ECU adapts to driving style, shifting into neutral when stopped or coasting to a stop may make the ECU realize that you want your PDK to act like a real manual rather than a viscous-coupled abortion-of-a-transmission from a 1973 Impala.
- lengthen the useful life of the fluid in the clutch pack so that when you get charged for a PDK flush that didn't actually happen, your PDK's expensive bits might not suffer as much as fast.
- lessen the wear on whatever PDK uses for a throw-out bearing and since the PDK has two of whatever that is, it's doubly-effective.
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On my Gallardo (2006), I used to use paddle-neutral coming up to red lights/stop signs/etc. after a really hard run (cooking the brakes) so that when I stopped, I could take my foot completely off the brake pedal (without the car creeping forward from being 'in gear') so that I wouldn't warp my rotors (from the heat transfer from rotors to calipers.)
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I was about to post something similar.Indeed in Lambos pulling both paddles puts you in neutral.I use it coming to ever red light each and every time.If you let the car drop gears on its own you're wearing out the clutch more than you have to.Its better for the car to go to neutral than thru each individual gear.I haven't used a PDK car but I was assuming Porsche used the same method,i guess they dont.But Porsche clutches probably dont wear out as fast and aren't as expensive as a Lambo clutch.
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