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Old 12-12-2013, 05:54 PM
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The Cayman sucks (no offense meant but it is how it is). Even if you put a 500 hp engine into it, it has never been developed for this kind of power, so it will suck.
Get a 991 GT3 if you are unhappy with other 911 models but the Cayman really isn't a solution. Unless you are a masochist.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:08 PM
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The 991 Turbo S is already so much better than the GT3, what's your point? The GT3 cannot outrun the 991 Turbo S on the track (same tires) and on the Autobahn, well...the GT3 is a joke compared to the Turbo S.
Also, the same (skill) driver will always be faster in a Turbo S on the track than in the GT3, so I really really have a hard time getting your point.
My point is, why on earth can't the the turbo engine make MUCH more power than the n/a version of the same engine? VE is so much better on turbo engines the only explanation I can come up with is because Porsche didn't want the Turbo to be too much powerful than the GT3.

It doesn't make any sense that a turbo version of a 3.8l flat6 make only 85hp more than the N/A car. My old miata made 60hp more than stock with only 7psi on a four 1.8l. It's pretty clear to me that Porsche is definitely holding the power back. My guess was to not dig too big a gap with the GT3. Others pointed that more powerful GT2 and GT2RS need a power bump as well and so does the future version of the 991.2 TT/TTS...

Either way, the new TT/TTS is making a lot less power than it could/should. Only Porsche knows the reason for sure. Milking the owners by ever releasing more powerful version every year does sound like Porsche though. But I don't think the 918 has anything to do with it.
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Old 12-13-2013, 01:51 PM
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Dear Santa,
I want a TTS with 750 HP. I want to go 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. I want a top speed of 230 mph. Please be good to me . My genitals are quite small and I really need some bragging rights. I have no intention of using this power except in my dreams but I've tried Viagra and it's just not working. Can you speak to someone at Porsche? I'm not that rich so I'll never have a Veyron.
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by darth g-f View Post
My point is, why on earth can't the the turbo engine make MUCH more power than the n/a version of the same engine? VE is so much better on turbo engines the only explanation I can come up with is because Porsche didn't want the Turbo to be too much powerful than the GT3.

It doesn't make any sense that a turbo version of a 3.8l flat6 make only 85hp more than the N/A car. My old miata made 60hp more than stock with only 7psi on a four 1.8l. It's pretty clear to me that Porsche is definitely holding the power back. My guess was to not dig too big a gap with the GT3. Others pointed that more powerful GT2 and GT2RS need a power bump as well and so does the future version of the 991.2 TT/TTS...

Either way, the new TT/TTS is making a lot less power than it could/should. Only Porsche knows the reason for sure. Milking the owners by ever releasing more powerful version every year does sound like Porsche though. But I don't think the 918 has anything to do with it.
The Turbo S is actually making 160 more hp than the engine it is based on, which the Carrera S, not the GT3. The GT3 engine is not the one that got boosted and that engine is worlds apart from the base Carrera S. So there likely is room for 20-40 more hp for the 2 and GT2RS but not much.
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SamFromTX View Post
The Turbo S is actually making 160 more hp than the engine it is based on, which the Carrera S, not the GT3. The GT3 engine is not the one that got boosted and that engine is worlds apart from the base Carrera S. So there likely is room for 20-40 more hp for the 2 and GT2RS but not much.
Good point. Makes sense.

Can't wait to see where Porsche takes this engine.
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Originally Posted by SamFromTX View Post
The Turbo S is actually making 160 more hp than the engine it is based on, which the Carrera S, not the GT3. The GT3 engine is not the one that got boosted and that engine is worlds apart from the base Carrera S. So there likely is room for 20-40 more hp for the 2 and GT2RS but not much.
Well said.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bacura View Post
Dear Santa,
I want a TTS with 750 HP. I want to go 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. I want a top speed of 230 mph. Please be good to me . My genitals are quite small and I really need some bragging rights. I have no intention of using this power except in my dreams but I've tried Viagra and it's just not working. Can you speak to someone at Porsche? I'm not that rich so I'll never have a Veyron.
Thanks,
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SamFromTX View Post
The Turbo S is actually making 160 more hp than the engine it is based on, which the Carrera S, not the GT3. The GT3 engine is not the one that got boosted and that engine is worlds apart from the base Carrera S. So there likely is room for 20-40 more hp for the 2 and GT2RS but not much.
Worlds apart is a far stretch. The GT3 is based on the same engine. Just has stronger and lighter internals and more oil pickups. It's got to handle the 9k rpm, where as the Turbo has a much lower red line. I'd also have to say looking at the fuel epa, that the GT3 is also getting a lot more na power from burning more fuel, where to Turbo is tuned to be very fuel efficient.
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Also hurting GT3 fuel efficiency -- no overdrive gear
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