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LemonDrop 11-15-2018 09:00 PM

Engine Stops Running 2014 991 911 Turbo
 
Hi,

Anyone have any ideas? ...

Very intermittently, like days, can be when stationary and idling, or leaving a traffic light, or at highway speed, the engine stops running, the dash lights all light, and then go normal. If when idling, I just need to turn the key clockwise and it starts right up. If it happens when moving, it restarts on it's own, seemingly from the car's momentum.

Replaced the crank angle sensor and the battery at the dealer. Not fixed.

Can't reproduce on demand in any way. Dealer says can't reproduce, can't fix. Nothing logged in the ECM.

Car runs perfectly before and after that instant. Starts perfectly. Cold or hot, no matter. Bumps, swerves, stops, acceleration, can't get it on purpose.

Any one see this before?

Here is a screen shot from video capturing it. I recorded every driving moment for 2 weeks to get this when it happened.

Arrrggghhhh.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7ad98ea46f.jpg
Moment engine cuts off.

Michael_s 11-16-2018 08:13 AM

Crank sensor. Just came up last week. Good luck.

LemonDrop 11-16-2018 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Michael_s (Post 15434471)
Crank sensor. Just came up last week. Good luck.

Thanks for the reply. As I mentioned the crank sensor has been replaced already. Any other thoughts?

guab 11-16-2018 12:09 PM

Wow, that's super weird. How many miles can you drive it before it happens again? If you can nail it down to that delta, it might be easier to have the dealer reproduce it.

LemonDrop 11-16-2018 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by guab (Post 15434928)
Wow, that's super weird. How many miles can you drive it before it happens again? If you can nail it down to that delta, it might be easier to have the dealer reproduce it.

Totally (seemingly) arbitrary. No predictable mileage interval, time interval, conditions. Went 2 weeks nothing, then 3 times in one week, but a day or more apart.

I'm starting to look towards voltage. I'm usually in sport mode where the voltage rides up to 14.5 maybe even higher. It did it once at startup on a cool day in normal mode where the temperature had the idle up to 1300 or so and voltage up to 14.5 ish. And I think in most cases it happens in sport mode. I am now staying in normal mode to confirm if it does or doesn't do it.

I understand 14.5 ish is typical for Sport mode, but I wonder if it's takes excursions higher for some reason, like alternator?, can that cause this? 14.5 V is quite a bit higher than the expected 12.6 V battery volts, independent of charging status.

Michael_s 11-16-2018 03:48 PM

My apologies. Reading on my mobile and didn't see that part. Good luck with the fix.

Need4S 11-16-2018 04:57 PM

Sounds like an ignition switch issue or the interface with the stop/start system.

sdg1871 11-17-2018 09:07 PM

That might be the throttle body/oil separator it happened to me

LemonDrop 11-17-2018 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by sdg1871 (Post 15438163)
That might be the throttle body/oil separator it happened to me

Like this:

https://youtu.be/friKRQpUI30

?

sdg1871 11-18-2018 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by LemonDrop

Never mind happened when I was pulling up to a light or sitting at a light not when I was pushing on the gas

DaveChapin 11-18-2018 06:39 AM

This happened to me about 10 times last winter. Happened while idling at a stop lights. Very annoying. I had the local Porsche dealer see if they could find anything amiss, and after a day, nothing. It hasn't happened to me for months. But, it's now winter again, so I wonder if the stalling will resume.
[maybe it just happens to yellow cars]

LemonDrop 11-18-2018 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by sdg1871 (Post 15438528)
Never mind happened when I was pulling up to a light or sitting at a light not when I was pushing on the gas

It does it then too. Totally random. Those are just two I caught on camera. Warm, cool, slowing, idling, arbitrary. No rhyme or reason.

NiteJav 11-19-2018 07:47 AM

Turn the stop start system off, maybe there is something going nuts there....

LemonDrop 11-19-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by NiteJav (Post 15440653)
Turn the stop start system off, maybe there is something going nuts there....

​​​​​​First thing we looked at. It's always off, I don't like it. The Christmas tree wouldn't light. Thanks.

worf928 11-19-2018 01:52 PM

Has the dealer re-flashed all of the ECUs involved in the start/stop system?

This is usually the first Hail Mary pass in a no-effin-idea situation.

The PWIS laptop has a data logging mode which might capture useful info. But, not until you can make it stall at will.



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