My GT3 engine just blew up
#346
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by Marv800
Rich, I'm glad you're happy, but I wouldn't be. In every other possible scenario, the car would probably deemed a total loss, yet PCNA thinks repair to "new" condition is possible? Would that have been there conclusion if the GT3 production run was not over?
This is the decision made and for now he is good with it. And I don't see how they can't get it back to like new. Rebuild the back end with new parts and it should be like new as long as it's done right.
#347
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No part of the car was new at the time of the fire, but many parts of the car, including the engine, will be new after the repair. So there are factors that both diminish and increase the value of the car. I personally would pursue a diminished value claim, and compensation for not having use of the car while it's under repair.
#348
Nordschleife Master
I would not be happy with the outcome but I'm thinking there wasn't another offer to Rich. As long as Rich is happy that's all that matters. As far as value goes, I would say, regardless of the new engine and most of the back end replacement, the potential future value would be lower vs this event not happening at all. Just my opinion.
#349
Race Director
Agree with you. With that fire damage any sheet metal involved in the fire is questionable.
How can Porsche "guarantee" the car is roadworthy in the context of a GT3 after that kind of damage?
I think it mistake to insist Porsche fix the car. (And I wouldn't be surprised if Porsche had second thoughts and ultimately declines repairing the car. A lot less risk involved.)
If the car is "fixed" I'd not want that car if it was traded in. Not for $100K not for $10K. Well, maybe $10K. For parts.
To the OP: I'd ask for a check, a big check, and go find another car. That one's good only for parts.
#352
Drifting
Agree with you. With that fire damage any sheet metal involved in the fire is questionable.
How can Porsche "guarantee" the car is roadworthy in the context of a GT3 after that kind of damage?
I think it mistake to insist Porsche fix the car. (And I wouldn't be surprised if Porsche had second thoughts and ultimately declines repairing the car. A lot less risk involved.)
If the car is "fixed" I'd not want that car if it was traded in. Not for $100K not for $10K. Well, maybe $10K. For parts.
To the OP: I'd ask for a check, a big check, and go find another car. That one's good only for parts.
How can Porsche "guarantee" the car is roadworthy in the context of a GT3 after that kind of damage?
I think it mistake to insist Porsche fix the car. (And I wouldn't be surprised if Porsche had second thoughts and ultimately declines repairing the car. A lot less risk involved.)
If the car is "fixed" I'd not want that car if it was traded in. Not for $100K not for $10K. Well, maybe $10K. For parts.
To the OP: I'd ask for a check, a big check, and go find another car. That one's good only for parts.
Last edited by F1CrazyDriver; 12-05-2016 at 08:22 PM.
#353
I'd negotiate what was paid for the car plus mods, and pay difference for a new RS (if desired). Or just get what paid for car, removed mods, and get something else. One more who wouldn't want that car repaired. If Porsche wouldn't agree to either of those options, then no choice. But wouldn't hurt to try. Good luck OP.
#354
Burning Brakes
Wow, So many woulda, shoulda, coulda's. I'm sure Rich will manage the outcome without so much ill founded advice from the forum. IMO only. Best, Allan
Last edited by allans; 12-05-2016 at 11:03 PM.
#355
Nordschleife Master
Everyone has an opinion about what the OP should be doing but they're not in his situation. I am not either but I have a feeling it sucks big time. You're at PAG and PCNA's mercy. A major player is the dealer and how they choose to represent you. Sure you can fight and ask for more,but in the end they'll pretty much do what they want within the limits of their obligations. What else can you do if you don't get what you want? You can sue,but the question is if one wants to go through that hassle,time and money consuming process,against PCNA's army of lawyers. I guess you could also try and wage a media war to tarnish their reputation. But all these are bitter and nerve consuming processes which might not accomplish anything.
#357
Drifting
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Lot's of salt on an open wound, boys.. OP tracks his car. It will be rebuilt and he will be faster. It will live on in infamy..
Lot's of salt on an open wound, boys.. OP tracks his car. It will be rebuilt and he will be faster. It will live on in infamy..
#358
Rennlist Member
^^^ Last two posts spot on IMO. Difficult to negotiate from a position of questionable strength, and too painful to litigate with uncertainty. Life short, its a car for using on the track, OP has been made mostly whole, use the car some more and trade it for the next IMO. Its not like the price has bombed on GT3s, heck weve pretty much been given a zero depreciation track ***** to use and abuse for teh last few years - cant ask for much more than that - cheaper than shopping, drugs or gambling as a hobby!
#359
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Gimme me a better track day solution I fit in and I'll start bitching at Porsche. As long as they keep is on the track under warranty or "Good will" we are winning.
That no Clubsport option in a box is annoying though.
#360
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I think the larger, and more important, point here is that PAG is standing behind their product and warranty claim, no questions (that we know of) asked.
For that, we (including the OP) should be encouraged.
For that, we (including the OP) should be encouraged.