Chris3963

Depends on what country you are in because the taxes vary country by country. In mine, list price for base GT3 including taxes was 142,000 euro. There is going to be a pretty decent price hike for the next model to position it more above the 991.2 S/GTS. Over here, a reasonably well spec'd 991.2 S nudges 140,000 euro now.

Of course what happens in the US is entirely different matter considering you guys are on a completely different planet when it comes to car prices.

Macca

26K Euro including 19% tax is quite a hike. But I believe its probably true based on the gen 2 car prices for various models. It doesnt look like 991.1 GT3+RS prices will soften much at all in that case.

Im a purist at heart but would have to agree with Drifting that if I had to make a choice it would be PDK-S all the way for my Gen 2 track rat. But actually it will likely be a set of DMS headers, some AP rotors, a good alignment with Tropheo R (Ill give them a try) some Tarret drop links to allow proper corner weight balancing and some Ferodo DS1.11 pads. In all honesty with how Im starting to learn to chick this car around on the track I think that will hold off the future competition for a few more years....and Im luckily in a position to already have the gen 1.5 engine (G series) although not proud of the fact...

Chris3963

What he says.

Drifting

Thanks Chris,

It's true that direct euro to dollar conversions are hard to make with Porsche.

Based on your figures, I expect the base price of a GT3 to raise in the US from 130,000 dollars for a .1 GT3 to 150,000 US dollars for the .2 GT3, which is a sizeable jump in price, but likely in order to better position it over the GTS as the 991.1 GT3 barely cost more than the 991.1 GTS but was much more of a car and a fantastic deal.

Giving the .2 GT3 a 4.0L engine will help Porsche to justify the price increase.

GrantG

Ouch! A price jump from 134k to 160k EUR represents an increase of 19.4%

That seems unreasonable for an incremental improvement. If they make these sorts of price increases at every facelift and new generation, the pricing will be out of control in short order.

C.J. Ichiban

€£¥$ all at war with each other.

signes

I could see this happening (4.0 and big price jump) if there is no .2 GT3RS. Move the GT3 up closer to where the RS was in terms of price and performance, and then we get a GT2RS >$250k instead of a .2 RS. GT2RS would be more competitive with McLaren P(whatever) and 488, and help with homologation. Only thing that doesn't make much sense above is limiting manuals to a certain percentage of production. More likely that would the make expected take-rate on manuals, not a limit.

GrantG

So you think the USD increase could be more modest?

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TRAKCAR

Well we're not winning so cheap Porsche's. In theory.

No, because Germans know Americans love to throw cheap money around.

997rs4.0

160k sounds about right if they put the 4.0l in 991.2gt3.
Would be right in between 991gt3 and RS. And same performance as 991RS?

Demand is there and raising the price might help to lower production slightly. Still making the same amount of money.

GrantG

How would it have same performance as RS? Same motor, but more weight, narrow body, no 21" wheels, less aero, etc. New suspension would have to be very special to make up that difference.

And the manual (my choice) would have a significant gearing disadvantage (6 vs. 7 ratios).

GrantG

Just heard from a well connected friend in Europe (highest confidence on the cleaning lady scale) and he expects price in Euros with VAT tax to be in the mid to high 140's in Germany. So, much better than $160k EUR...

More like a 8-10% price increase (rather than 19%) over the 991.1 GT3...

Chris3963

See new post. Should probably have just added it to this thread.

If the RS is going to 4.2, then likely validates that the 991.2 GT3 will adopt the 4.0 litre.

MEM82

that would be great grant....also thank you whoopsy, chris and endo for your knowledge as well